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‘Vapers’ rally at SCV shop

Posted: August 11, 2014 2:00 a.m.
Updated: August 11, 2014 2:00 a.m.

E-cigarette users puff on their products during a local rally promoting use and understanding at the Cloud N9ne Vape Pure shop in Saugus on Sunday. Signal photo by Jim Holt.


Through the hazy clouds of vapor in the tiny Saugus room, electronic cigarette users say they see quite clearly that "vaping" is a much healthier alternative to tobacco smoking.

On Sunday afternoon, more than 150 people gathered at the Cloud N9ne Vape Pure store on Bouquet Canyon Road at Plum Canyon Road for a rally of sorts, promoting and showing support for smokeless “e-cig” products.

“For me, personally, it has changed my life,” said Age Sahagun, who smoked tobacco products for 23 years.

Asked what percentage of event attendees were ex-tobacco smokers, he said; “Ninety-five percent.”

The goal of Cloud N9ne, according to the shop’s website, is to “provide the best smokeless cigarette products to our customers and to offer excellent customer service. After careful research we have chosen what we believe to be the best products to offer our customers at low prices.”

Outside the Cloud N9ne shop, as DJs in a truck pumped out party music, e-cig dealers under tents promoted scores of pipe-like devices for sale.

Inside the shop, filled with smoky e-cig exhalent, sat three young men who made the trip from Ventura to share in the event.

“It’s a healthier alternative to smoking,” said former tobacco-smoker Ryan Wilson, of Ventura. “There’s no tar, no chemicals.

“It’s a thousand times better for me,” he said.

His friend Matt Davis added: “I can breathe now. Now, I can actually run.”

Madeline Altieri, of Cloud N9ne, said she’s part of an emerging sub-culture.

“It’s huge in Southern California,” she said. “Santa Clarita Valley hasn’t been submerged into it yet. But, a lot of shops, between 10 and 15 of them, are in Santa Clarita.

“Our goal is to bring everyone together,” Altieri said. “We have people here who were smoking a pack (of tobacco cigarettes) a day and now they feel much better.”

Mark Burton, a promoter of electronic cigarettes, said he helps frame litigation cases against “state, federal and local governments” that move to restrict the use of the products.

“There is still a lot of misunderstanding about vapes,” he said.
He constantly educates people who have misconceptions about e-cig products, he said.

One misconception is e-cig products promote drug use. “You can’t use our devices for drugs,” he said. “Our heating element would kill the (marijuana drug component) THC,” he said.

“The thing I hear most is that it looks like smoking,” he said. “Can you tell the difference between vodka and water just by looking at it?”
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Vtown123: Posted: August 11, 2014 10:16 a.m.

Nice sausage fest they've got going there. Surprised they aren't rockin the rainbows.

CaptGene: Posted: August 11, 2014 10:56 a.m.

Douche bag convention.

michaelmyers1: Posted: August 11, 2014 12:02 p.m.

Now that's funny Vtown...

chefgirl358: Posted: August 11, 2014 12:21 p.m.

The fact that these businesses are telling people that this is a healthy alternative to cigarettes is total bs. Nobody knows yet what sort of long term damage this stuff causes. Until long term, reliable studies have been completed nobody can say for certain what is good or bad about these things.

I'm pretty sure that inhaling super heated smoke/vapor/whatever into your not good for you on any level. Sure, it MIGHT be less harmful than cigarettes, but that doesn't mean the stuff is like taking vitamins for christ sakes!

timothymyers02: Posted: August 11, 2014 12:42 p.m.

If Jenny McCarthy is for it, I'm 'agin' it!

lawoman: Posted: August 11, 2014 12:47 p.m.

chefgirl358- You're right, no one does know the long term effect that these "Vap" cigs will have but you need to educate yourself before you sound off. The studies that have been done on these proved to insignificant to label them as a health hazard, LA smog probably has more of an effect on our lungs than these do. I was a 40 yr smoker and tried the "e-cig" in March 2014 for the first time to help me quit. The e-cig I used had low-dose nicotine because I didn't want the headaches and mood swings that go along with nicotine withdrawal. I can proudly say that I have not smoked a cigarette since however, I can't say that I quit until I have reached my 6 mo mark which will be in 4 wks. These are not smoked like cigarettes, you inhale a few times and that's it, I'm now to the point where I don't use it at all. Let these people enjoy their habit or quirk, it's their body and they can do what they want with it. Like every fad, it will disappear in time.

Vtown123: Posted: August 11, 2014 2:18 p.m.

It's interesting that you tell someone to educate themselves before sounding off... But then you go on to say there's insufficient research and that smog is worse than vaping. Where's your evidence to back up that statement?

lawoman: Posted: August 11, 2014 2:32 p.m.

Vtown123: I'm sure you know how to use the internet to look up this info for yourself and I said "probably" about the smog.

DMeyer: Posted: August 11, 2014 3:01 p.m.

Doesn't it look cool to smoke!? Do they realize how dumb they look? And their poor hygeine is just foul.

CaptGene: Posted: August 11, 2014 5:15 p.m.

DMeyer, will it change your opinion to know that they are just trying to raise awareness to the dangers of smoking?

Just kidding, they look like a bunch of Bozos.

Vtown123: Posted: August 11, 2014 6:17 p.m.

Sharks probably kill more people per year than drunk drivers. Now look it up and prove me wrong.

DMeyer: Posted: August 11, 2014 6:30 p.m.

CaptGene: Lol, I am now aware that these types of less than desirable hangouts are here in town!

chefgirl358: Posted: August 11, 2014 6:37 p.m.

Lawoman, what did I say? I said until long term, reliable studies have been completed nobody can say for certain what is good or bad about these things.

I am sure they can help people quit smoking, and good for you for doing it. But nothing will ever convince me that it is safe or healthy to inhale ANY type of heated smoke/vapor into your lungs. That is my personal opinion and I'll sound off on it if I want to. Presently, there is nothing to confirm OR dispute my opinion and there won't be for many years, until said long term studies publish results.

ricketzz: Posted: August 12, 2014 9:30 a.m.

I don't see where any of the usual wet rags (above) have been harmed by this activity. Why don't they leave other people alone?

chefgirl358: Posted: August 12, 2014 12:12 p.m.


As usual you just go off half cocked without thinking things through. Because these vaping things are still a complete mystery as to the health hazards they MAY cause, they could also be harmful to others just like secondhand smoke. I'm not saying they are, I'm saying they COULD be. That's why several cities and areas have banned their use in public areas, beaches, etc., because they are being proactive in protecting people against something that is potentially harmful.

CaptGene: Posted: August 12, 2014 7:27 p.m.

I looked over the comments and didn't see where anybody claimed to have been "harmed" by any of this. Of course, as I am not an award winning producer, perhaps I lack the skill to spot such things.

I think the more likely explanation is that either

a. cricketzz has a soft spot for douche bags, or

b. cricketzz hopes the youngins will think he's cool if he defends them, or

c. all of the above.

My money is on "c" --edited.

DMeyer: Posted: August 13, 2014 11:33 a.m.

Great post CaptGene

I'd say definitely a, and maybe b. So c has to be the best answer.

CaptGene: Posted: August 15, 2014 3:31 p.m.

This actually looks more like a Douche Bag store, see all the douche bags lining the walls?

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