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Fake gun in Newhall leads to real gunpoint detainment

Posted: February 25, 2014 2:00 a.m.
Updated: February 25, 2014 2:00 a.m.

Four people filming a scene with a fake gun outside a Newhall office building got a big surprise Monday night when SCV deputies drew real guns and detained them in connection with an alleged armed robbery, an official from the Santa Clarita Valley Sheriff’s Station said.

Deputies responding to the call of a person pointing a gun at another person on Lyons Avenue near Peachland Avenue soon established that the gun was fake and the four were only shooting a video, according to Lt. Tom Bryski.

“They were detained at gunpoint and handcuffed until we could figure out what was going on,” Bryski said.

The four were quickly released and “counseled” on the dangers of acting out a scene on a public street without a permit.

“In order to do it legally they would need to get a permit,” Bryski said. “And the city would tell us ... so we’re not surprised.”


ohhyaa: Posted: February 25, 2014 7:16 a.m.

I support our Sheriff's. Most aren't the shoot now ask questions later group that they are accused of being. Here's a lesson for today, cooperate and communicate and you will be "quickly" released too.

17trillion: Posted: February 25, 2014 8:13 a.m.

"Quickly" is probably in eye of the beholder.

scvforall: Posted: February 25, 2014 8:16 a.m.

Anyone making a film should know you need a permit. The sheriffs never know what they will encounter when they arrive on scene and nowadays people are so crazy, they might stage a "film shoot" to carry out something more sinister.

Handcuffs maybe a little extreme, but de-escalating what could have been something else, has to be their first priority.

NotSoAwesomeTown: Posted: February 25, 2014 8:33 a.m.

CalArts should be advising students to obtain permits if they're going to shoot off campus. They're very lucky this didn't go in a different direction.

DMeyer: Posted: February 25, 2014 8:37 a.m.

How dare the sheriffs department detain anyone, they (sheriffs) should be able to read the minds of the film crew and knew right away what was going on.....sarcasm intended.

src: Posted: February 25, 2014 8:48 a.m.

If they weren't blocking traffic or using special equipment, I don't see the need for a permit. It's none of the city's business. But a call to the sheriffs office, letting them know what they were doing in case just such a thing occurred, might have been a good idea.

17trillion: Posted: February 25, 2014 10:00 a.m.

So I need permission from the lords of SC to film something? Not a full on movie with stopped traffic or anything, just me with a camera? Friggin Nazis I say.

philellis: Posted: February 25, 2014 11:19 a.m.

The City has a lot of information on its website about filming. The following link is for student filming. BTW, family filiming does not require any permits.

tpaul: Posted: February 25, 2014 11:51 a.m.

The city was going to issue a permit ,but blew all the money on the Newhall round-a-bout. Yeah , I know it's getting old, get over it. Oh I know , let's jump on the electronic billboard wagon. Come on , who's with me? ( maybe I should try decaf--)

DMeyer: Posted: February 25, 2014 12:59 p.m.


No! You don't need a permit from the lords of SC to do some filming. Go ahead and do a remake of the shootout in the movie Heat on McBean Pkwy and Valencia Bl. Let me know how it turned out.

17trillion: Posted: February 25, 2014 2:10 p.m.


One would think doing a full scale movie versus a couple guys with a camera wouldn't be lost on you. As stated in the article, it would appear a permit was required but thankfully nobody was killed. Too bad the cops couldn't say the same about the guy that was killed a couple weeks ago. But you go right ahead and support our local cops. They never screw up!

ccboy: Posted: February 25, 2014 2:48 p.m.

@17trillion, What were your findings on your investigation into the shooting a couple weeks ago you are talking, since you know our local cops screwed up. Maybe you can expedite things and file charges, be prosecution, defense, judge and jury since you are all knowing of officer involved shootings.

17trillion: Posted: February 25, 2014 3:53 p.m.

I didn't say they screwed up CC. What I also didn't do was slobber praise for killing the guy either. In fact one of you Neanderthals actually said "good riddance". It later comes out the guy was a vet and a family man. I understand they have a tough job but when a guy is shot 10 times by a large group of well trained officers even though he didn't have a gun, that raises my concern. And for raising that concern, I'm labeled a cop hater. If he had a gun, you wouldn't have heard a word from me.

The real question is, why doesn't raise your concern?

And finally as to the investigation, it's not my job to investigate it. I think my tax dollars are used to fund that effort and I'm sure we'll be seeing an honest accounting of the events any day now from our dedicated and always perfect members of law enforcement. As I said, they never screw up do they?

src: Posted: February 25, 2014 4:24 p.m.

17, since we're already off subject, a knife = a gun = a sharp pointy object intended to cause harm. A grown man can close a 20 foot gap in about 3 seconds, that's barely enough time to draw a side arm, acquire a target, and engage the threat. Unless there was a an update I didn't see, I remember reading the man had either a knife or some sort of implement intended to cause harm. When given the order to drop the weapon, you do as told. What do you think wold have happened if one of these students pointed their fake gun at the police? Adrenaline and the pucker factor have a way of fogging things up.

DMeyer: Posted: February 25, 2014 4:55 p.m.

Back on point.

Try a little common sense 17trillion. No one cares if you film your kid playing soccer in Central Park on a Sunday afternoon....but if you want to film a movie scene on a major road in SCV with one person pointing a gun at another person a film permit would be in order. But continue on with your rants against the Nazi lords of SC, dare they!

OICU812: Posted: February 25, 2014 8:39 p.m.

@17trillion: Vet - Family Man - or Crackhead that crawled out of the wash, it doesn't matter who he was. He was a threat to public safety, wasn't obeying commands from the officers, was shot 2 times with a taser to no avail, then was shot 1 time with a gun at which point he dropped his "spear", then retrieves a knife from his underwear he was running around in and still advances on armed officers who then shot and killed him. Oh and di I forget to mention that he struck a passing motorist with his "spear" with a mom and her 2 kids in the car? Can you please reassure how the LASD was wrong on the outcome?

17trillion: Posted: February 26, 2014 7:57 a.m.

OI, you have added information that I hadn't heard or read about in the Signal. If true, then I stand corrected. I was basing my reaction on the facts at hand. Since you clearly have more facts and assuming they are correct, I stand corrected.

See people, it's not too difficult. However, based upon what was reported it seemed like a gross and even negligent overreaction.

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