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Posted: February 28, 2013 2:00 a.m.
Updated: February 28, 2013 2:00 a.m.
 

I was upset hearing that Rick Perry traveled to California on a ”job-poaching mission.”

Being born and raised here, I couldn’t figure out the nerve of Rick Perry wanting a person who lives in California to come to Texas to work and live.

There is no comparison between the two states in beauty.

To boost jobs in California, we have to create new green jobs.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in clean energy.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in infrastructure.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in rapid and affordable transportation.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in relieving freeway gridlock.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in and improve our public transportation.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in public health.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest and grow our departments of public safety.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in and improve our education system.

Californians can do this with there determination and hard work — with the help of our public leaders.

California can show the other states and the world that it is possible that a lucrative economy, ecology and social values can be achieved by boosting and creating new jobs.

Feb. 28, 2013 02:00a.m. EST Letters: Texas job-poaching The Signal

I was upset hearing that Rick Perry traveled to California on a ”job-poaching mission.”

Being born and raised here, I couldn’t figure out the nerve of Rick Perry wanting a person who lives in California to come to Texas to work and live.

There is no comparison between the two states in beauty.

To boost jobs in California, we have to create new green jobs.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in clean energy.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in infrastructure.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in rapid and affordable transportation.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in relieving freeway gridlock.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in and improve our public transportation.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in public health.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest and grow our departments of public safety.

To boost jobs in California, we have to invest in and improve our education system.

Californians can do this with there determination and hard work — with the help of our public leaders.

California can show the other states and the world that it is possible that a lucrative economy, ecology and social values can be achieved by boosting and creating new jobs.

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Comments

longranger: Posted: February 28, 2013 8:37 a.m.

Lois, all those things you say California should do are probably true, but you missed the biggest one. We are driving business away from this state by too much regulation and taxation. Perry is spreading the word that it's easier to run a profitable business in Texas. He wants our jobs. It's not about the weather anymore lady.


JohnnyCash: Posted: February 28, 2013 9:15 a.m.

Dumbest. LTE. Ever.

Praise from LADIMAS in 3...2...1...


chefgirl358: Posted: February 28, 2013 10:15 a.m.

Good grief Lois, you sink lower and lower into oblivion with every stupid letter. This one is the dumbest yet...


CaptGene: Posted: February 28, 2013 10:46 a.m.

I love it when a LTE says: "we have to invest in and improve our education system" and follow it with: "Californians can do this with there determination and hard work".

"There" determination and hard work? Comedy gold!


OldReliable: Posted: February 28, 2013 10:59 a.m.

This is probably THE most wrong headed LTE I've ever read here at the Mighty Signal! Investing is what's killing this Country and this State. STOP SPENDING! Idle back business regulations. It's that simple.

So, what we have here with David Warburton and Lois Eisenberg is two peas in a pod, er... two socialist in a pod.


JM: Posted: February 28, 2013 11:18 a.m.

The thing I like best about Perry is he acutally goes out and tries to grow his economic base by making a sales call on prospective companies. It would have been nice to have someone leading our country who was there to promote our country instead of hiding behind his aides and legislating by decree.

The people Perry is trying to recruit are those hated 1% ers and corporations both of whom Lois has railed against in the past. I would think she would be happy to see them go, except she needs their money to fund her worthless programs.

Phil Mickelson had it right and I am out of here in June. A CA native who never took a day of public assistance, or unemployment, and is square in the crosshairs of prop 30. It is pretty where I am going too with 1/3 the income tax, 1/2 the sales tax, and equal property tax with housing that is 25% less. With those savings along I can visit CA, or anyplace else in the world for that matter and still put money in the bank for a rainy day. .


Dumbounded: Posted: February 28, 2013 12:02 p.m.

Words cannot describe how moronic this letter is. I too love the climate of this state but other than that, I hate it here. I literally hate everything about this state. Liberals have ruined this state and the simplistic answer to those problems to people like Ladimas? Spend more! Regulate more!

We have the 3rd highest unemployment in the country.

We have the highest tax burden in the country.

We have 1/3rd of the welfare cases in a state that makes up 1/8th of the countries population.

We are giving away more money by encouraging illegals to come here and not leave.

The cost and hassle of doing business is astronomical.

So you may ask me why don't you just leave? Well, due to family considerations I cannot at this time. But one day I will. I will sell my house and take the 10k a year I pay in property taxes to another state. I will not pay 10% sales tax. I will no longer pay 69 cents a gallon in gas taxes, 2nd highest in the country. Don't worry, I wont be going to NY who has the highest by .6ths of a cent.

California is messed up despite all the wealth we have and one day you will see this poster leave and along with me, the 10's of thousands I pay in taxes and regulatory burden with it. Oh yea, I own a small business too and those people will be out of work when I leave. Sorry, it's not my fault!

Whose fault is it? Lois/Ladimas and people of her ilk!


LADIMAS: Posted: February 28, 2013 12:41 p.m.

My,MY, My Lois's third LTE published in the SCV Signal in the month
of February. in the month of February, in the month of February !!!!!!

1) Monday Feb 11th
2) Tues Feb 19th
3) Thurs Feb. 28th

Pretty good for a left wing advocate, liberal and a progressive, having three
LTE published in the Signal in the same month, again in the same month !!!!

By the way, National Freedom Day, Groundhog Day, Chinese New Year Day,
Madri Gras Day, Ash Wednesday , Valentine's Day, Susan B Anthony Day,
President's Day and Family Day in Canada are all in the month of February,
and now Lois's three LTE in the month of February to add to these prestige's
events !!!!!!!!!!!!


hopeful: Posted: February 28, 2013 12:45 p.m.

I too wish I could leave California. I know of quite a few people, who have either left already for states such as Idaho, Colorado and Arizona, or plan to leave in the near future.

California debt, spending and out of control regulations and government interference are the main reasons so many of us want to leave here, yet you have people, like Lois, who advocate for MORE spending and regulations.


Dumbounded: Posted: February 28, 2013 1:26 p.m.

How quaint and unusual to have Ladimas cheering a letter by Lois. I find this to be so odd that it borders on some kind of mental issue.

Maybe I should write a letter or three and spend endless hours gushing over my own brilliance?


LADIMAS: Posted: February 28, 2013 2:03 p.m.

Hopeful and DB, your posts are right on cue !!!!!!!!


chefgirl358: Posted: February 28, 2013 2:04 p.m.

I love California, or at least I used to. Now, I can't wait to do the rest of my remaining years at my job, and get the hell out of this state. Liberals have completely and totally destroyed what was arguably the best state in the union since it's inception.

I am SO sick of hearing nonstop bull crap about how we need to pay MORE for this and that and the other, and raise taxes and increase spending for bull crap programs and how we should pay for everything twice (DMV vehicle reg and toll carpool lanes in SCV), it is just never ending. All the while, these same idiots that are bleeding us dry, want to make rules and laws to govern every freaking thing in the state down to what kind of bag I can use at the grocery store. What kind of weapons I can buy, possess and sell, what kind of food my kids can eat at school (god forbid somebody brings a g.d. cupcake tray for the class), what kind of cars we can drive (incentives for hybrids that incidentally cause all sorts of havoc on the environment in other ways), they have taxed and would love to outlaw tanning beds (which have a medical purpose for people like me with psoriasis), and on and on and on. I am sick to death of people like this ignorant moron Lois and their liberal socialist attitude that we should all be miserable because THEY want certain rules, laws and programs in place, and never mind what anybody else wants. If they want all these programs so badly, they can pay for it their freaking selves. They have made people like my family, who have been native Californians for 2 generations, long for the days when we can flee this godforsaken state and leave the liberals and the illegals to go down with the sinking ship together.


Dumbounded: Posted: February 28, 2013 2:38 p.m.

Not as on cue as your slobbering compliment over your own letter.

You know Ladimas, I'm going to break down and ask you an honest question. If we can both agree that there are lots of people who feel as I do about the state of the state, don't you think it might be wise to address some of our concerns given the exodus of tax paying people like me/us? Even you must realize that replacing people like us with illegals and takers wont do anything to help towards your/our goal of making this state great once again?

I, like you, was born and raised here. There is a reason why this state is declining in every sense of the word. I would simply ask you what you think that reason is especially given the tax burden that we all have?


pprobasco: Posted: February 28, 2013 2:40 p.m.

I do think that you have spend too much time in Disneyland. California is bankrupted. We have taxed people so much that they are leaving the state. Business have been regulated so much, that they can no longer do business and make a profit. I wish that we have a Governor that cared more for the state of California, then he does the unions and filling the pockets of people in Sacramento.


Mella: Posted: February 28, 2013 2:57 p.m.

Chefgirl, I think we must be related! Amen!! I hope Gov. Perry makes a shining example out of Texas! As North Dakota has already done. And by the way, and not to change the subject, but since you brought it up, what DO we plan to do about the H.O.T. lanes coming to Santa Clarita?
I say, Starve the Beast! DON'T drive in them...they will go the way of the red light cameras and airport body scanners!
Remember, the first action taken is never the end, never the goal...let your imagination travel down the path of the progressive mindset for just a second. IF we allow the HOT lanes, AND the TRANSPONDERS in our cars that will be required to use them, we can naturally conclude that the end result will be mandatory transponders in every new car, and of course the ensuing TAX PER MILE that is the ultimate and admitted goal.


bluto: Posted: February 28, 2013 3:21 p.m.

I think we can all agree that the biggest problem facing CA is that it is being run by the likes of Lois/Ladimas.
I, too, am out of here. Never on the public dime, retired and a life long taxpaying native of this once fine state.
You don't get what you pay for here. I'm done paying more so others can stay home.


Dumbounded: Posted: February 28, 2013 4:17 p.m.

Gosh Lois, not a lot of people supporting your version of CA. How wonderful do you think this state will be as more and more people like us not only dream of leaving, but actually do? I know you hate us all because we're not boot licking apologists for the worthless that are in power now, but you must realize that there are consequences for the dysfunction happening in this state and I think it's well documented by these comments. For more liberal dysfunction, please see IL, MI, and NY.

You have two choices. You can dismiss us and invite us to leave as quickly as possible, which would be gallactically ignorant or perhaps, just perhaps, you can contemplate what we are trying to say. Just maybe we have a point?

Did I mention that CA has an UNFUNDED pension liability of 500 billion dollars? I personally question that number, but even if its 3 or 2 or even 100 billion, who do you suppose is going to pay for that? They're not enough Barbara Streisands to pay for that, you need middle and upper middle class people and people that want to conduct business in CA so that THEY can provide jobs to others!

Have you ever looked at a CA labor law poster? Have you ever read one? It's mind numbing.......


JohnnyCash: Posted: February 28, 2013 4:22 p.m.

Who is John Galt?


LADIMAS: Posted: February 28, 2013 5:15 p.m.

Not one of you posters mentioned leaving for Texas to live !!!!

"Tumbleweeds invade West Texas home
Hundreds of tumbleweeds pushed against West Texas home by strong winds"

Author:
Published On: Feb 28 2013 11:04:29 AM CST
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MIDLAND, Texas (AP) — A brutal storm system that brought 19 inches of snow to some areas of West Texas has delivered something entirely different to one homeowner.

Winds in excess of 60 mph that accompanied Monday's blizzard pushed hundreds of tumbleweeds against a Midland home.

KWES-TV of Odessa and Midland reports (http://bit.ly/YYtSt2 ) one side of Josh Pitman's home is obscured by tumbleweeds stacked one atop the other, blocking some doorways.

Pitman says he recently tore down a fence that would have protected his home from the rambling weeds.

He says it's the "most ridiculous thing" he's ever seen.

He expects to spend the rest of the week clearing away the tumbleweeds"

To the posters that get so riled-up by one's LTE is ironic!!
Being so adamant about leaving Cal-i-for-ni-a and that they can't stand
Cal-i-for-ni-a, and using the following words dumbest, moronic, mental issues, ignorant to demean the letter writer are in themselves describing themselves!!



LADIMAS: Posted: February 28, 2013 5:37 p.m.

I'm going to sit in my backyard now on this glorious California day,
and take in the warmth and the glorious sunshine.
My dog will accompany me and he likes the warmth and sunshine
in So. Calif. as much as I do.
And to one and all who don't like Calif. adios and have a safe trip !!!


Dumbounded: Posted: February 28, 2013 5:42 p.m.

I don't think I would want to live in Texas, but I hear Austin is nice. No, for me Ladi it's North Carolina or Tennessee or perhaps the Florida panhandle. I want to live on a lake with my own dock and boat AND pocket 3 or 4 hundred thousand after I sell my overpriced track house. Is the weather as nice as here? No, but at some point I'll take 20k in my pocket per year and give up all the good that CA has to offer which is....ready?....the weather!

I just checked the average weather in Austin Texas and it's similar to Santa Clarita so there! We have tumble weeds in CA too. We have wind too as we saw last week. Some places in CA even have, gasp, snow! We also have earthquakes in CA, Jerry Brown, a bankrupt state government, lousy schools, crumbling infrastructure, onerous business regulations and pretty much everything that is wrong with this country, right here in good ol CA!

What's moronic is your cheerleading a failed state! Oh yea, more money will fix everything right? Can you imagine the comedy of Jerry Brown going to Texas to try to drum up business?


Dumbounded: Posted: February 28, 2013 5:45 p.m.

"And to one and all who don't like Calif. adios and have a safe trip"

Here ya have it people! The brilliance of Ladimas telling productive, middle class, taxpayers adios! The irony of her using "adios" rather than goodbye is not lost on me. I can't adios today Ladi, but I will one day and you can say adios to the 30 grand a year I pay in taxes.


chefgirl358: Posted: February 28, 2013 6:24 p.m.

Ladi can sit in her backyard with her dog allright, and eventually she'll have trouble paying for that backyard because a bunch of liberal pukes now want to ditch Prop 13, so I doubt she or anyone else will be able to afford their property taxes either. You liberals will end up renting apartments alongside all of the illegals!

Ladi, who said anyone was moving to TX? First of all, East Texas, I am told by a native, is beautiful and green just like So Cal, but that's not where I'm headed. Oh no. I am heading north, possibly to the Washington Coast. Oh yeah! And I can drive across the Oregon border and pay NO sales tax! Instead of the 10% we pay here now. By the time I leave CA, sales tax will probably be 20% here, and prop 13 will be gone so property taxes will be astronomical too!


Socalguy: Posted: February 28, 2013 6:39 p.m.

I was transferred to Texas two years ago from the SCV and don’t let anyone fool you, there is no place like California. It is true Texas has no state income tax, but it has the same sales tax as California and they tax everything including services such as haircuts, accounting and legal services, and yes even funerals. Did you know that property taxes are the highest in the nation in Texas, some areas in Texas can tax you up to 4% (with an average of 3-3.5% of the value of your home. For people that tell you property is cheap in Texas, that is true if you want to live 60 miles from a major metropolitan area where the jobs are located. Electricity is twice what it is in the SCV and with 80+ days of 100+ degree days in the summer, your AC runs continuously. In addition, most of the jobs that have been created in Texas in the last 5 years are low wage jobs, there are very few high tech high wage jobs being created. Schools are extremely bad here, if you want your kid to get a good education, you need to send them to private school (at about $15,000 per kid per year) or live an extremely wealthy neighborhood, where you pay extremely high property taxes. It is not a panacea in Texas, quite the contrary it is a hellhole. Calculating all the pluses and minuses I am paying more in taxes in Texas than I ever did in California and earing the same.


bluto: Posted: February 28, 2013 7:15 p.m.

Socalguy, hate to call you on your post, but I for one do not believe you.
My son is living in TX right now and he also disputes your claims as to paying more in taxes when in TX than in CA.
He is putting way more in the bank now than when he lived here at home with us. His words, not mine.


Indy: Posted: February 28, 2013 7:53 p.m.

Hopeful wrote: California debt, spending and out of control regulations and government interference are the main reasons so many of us want to leave here, yet you have people, like Lois, who advocate for MORE spending and regulations.

Indy: I see many conservatives here cite ‘regulations’ are the state’s main problem.

Can you give me a couple examples of the ones you see being the major problems ones?

Do you have any links to the same list that describes the problem that business has with them?

And what ‘government interference’ are you referring to?

As far as more spending is concerned, I’ll go back to the ‘kids per family’ and the related cost of same.

Do you understand why the student/teacher ratio increased from about 25 to 1 to now 39 to 1 in the Hart District over the last 25 years?

Was it appropriate to have our local republican legislators here advocate ‘no new taxes’ when the student enrollment growth ‘grew’ about one million net students over a 15 year or so period?

You’ve correctly noted in other post that you wish to understand the cost to families as their number of children increase. Well, this is the linkage here . . . more kids more taxes.

And yet our local legislators took written vows not to raise taxes for any reason which has resulted in ‘loading up the classroom’ with more kids which lowers service levels to maintain less taxes.

Why don’t republican legislators tell you ‘upfront’ as to that consequence?

Finally, the regulations that are being asserted here are bad, are they being listed on Assemblyman Knight or Wilk’s websites? If not, why not? Shouldn’t they be showing us what they are working or what democrats are fighting against?

How can we solve any problems be keeping it at the generalized level?

And if these questions are unfair, why so?


philellis: Posted: February 28, 2013 7:59 p.m.

Tumbleweeds (AKA Russian Thistle) in Odessa, how surprising.


Socalguy: Posted: February 28, 2013 8:12 p.m.

Bluto, sorry did not mean in Taxes actually meant overall expenses, but calculating sales tax on everything we buy including services, high property taxes, kids schools, increase in cost for electricity and water it it more expensive here in Texas than in California.


chefgirl358: Posted: February 28, 2013 8:22 p.m.

Socalguy, my friend is from East Texas and wants very much to retire there. I see him looking at houses online and what you can get for the money is crazy good. He says the cost of living there is dramatically lower, as do other folks I know that have given up on Cali and moved there. They love it. While I know it's not Xanadu, and it has it's own share of problems (mother nature for one) and it's not for everyone, a lot of people are moving there in droves and love it and it IS cheaper for most people than So Cal.

I for one, am a big proponent of Washington or Idaho. Some of the most popular states to leave CA to retire in are Utah, Texas, Washington, Idaho and Nevada. There's a reason people move to those places and it's because you can get so much more for your money and the cost of living is significantly cheaper, among other things, like the fact that CA totally sucks more and more every year.


CaptGene: Posted: February 28, 2013 8:32 p.m.

Overall tax burden by state: CA 4th highest, TX 45th.

http://taxfoundation.org/article/state-and-local-tax-burdens-all-states-one-year-1977-2010


LADIMAS: Posted: February 28, 2013 9:30 p.m.

Per Socalguy: "I was transferred to Texas two years ago from the SCV and don’t let anyone fool you, there is no place like California."

Now we can add "puke" to the other demeaning words listed above !!
And the beat goes on !!!!




ricketzz: Posted: March 1, 2013 9:36 a.m.

I like living in a place where the state actually stops people from dumping toxic waste uphill from my drinking water. Sometimes Houston smells like burning plastic; this goes on for days. The soot from dozens of coal fired generators makes delightfully bushy dust bunnies, but the fish is unsafe to eat due to the mercury pollution. They do have the nicest rest stops along the freeways.


Dumbounded: Posted: March 1, 2013 10:56 a.m.

I guess you've never been to San Pedro huh?


OldReliable: Posted: March 1, 2013 11:23 a.m.

By the way, there are many very beautiful places in Texas and the real beauty is found in the eye of the beholder... er, businessman.


Bigcasino: Posted: March 1, 2013 12:28 p.m.

solyndra was supposed to create green jobs, wasn't it?


Socalguy: Posted: March 1, 2013 1:03 p.m.

I hear people saying, “I looked online and I see that you can get houses for cheap in Texas”, that is very true, there are cheap homes in Texas, but you have to live out in the sticks. Please look up houses in Trona, California and you can see that you can get cheap houses there, but do you really want to live there?.

If you want a decent home, in a good neighborhoods in Dallas or Austin with good schools, you are likely to pay about $500,000, property taxes alone on that would be about $17,500 per year. Also, homeowners insurance is almost twice what it is in California due to tornadoes, hail and lighting. If you want to live the same lifestyle you are now living in the SCV you are likely to end up paying more overall to live in Texas. Please heed the old saying; it’s not always greener on the other side.

Instead of the tax burden being spread out equally to everyone including corporations in Texas, the tax burden in Texas lies heavily on individuals. Corporations reap the benefits of roads, police, fire protection, etc., while contributing very little to maintain the state through corporate taxes.


Socalguy: Posted: March 1, 2013 1:04 p.m.

Here is the truth about Texas
•Schools are a joke. The high school graduation rate, is 61.3 percent, puts Texas 43rd out of 50 in state rankings. Texas was already ranked 45th in 2008 for school funding per pupil, well before the 2011 Legislature slashed an additional $5.4 billion from funding for public education, it now puts them 49 out of 50 states. Texas ranks among the lowest in combined SAT scores , 47th out of 50 states, and is in the bottom quarter nationally in reading proficiency. Texas is ranked dead last for adults over the age of 25 with high school diplomas.
•Property taxes in Texas are triple of California and in some place more.
•Sales tax on almost everything you buy including ALL services.
•My property insurance is much higher in Texas almost double of California.
•My auto insurance is much higher in Texas almost double of California.
•Electricity and water are much higher than California.
•There are toll roads.
•Gasoline is not that much cheaper than California, right now about 30 cents per gallon less, but air pollution is a bigger problem in Texas.
•Cheap housing is only true if you want to live in the sticks.
•Traffic is just as bad as in LA.
•Voting is a joke, you do not get sample ballots and they never send you anything to tell you where your polling place is, they discourage early voting by limiting the hours and days.
•Here is the REAL scoop about all those jobs you keep hearing about that have been created in Texas. Texas leads the nation in minimum-wage jobs, and many positions don't offer health benefits. Also, steep budget cuts are expected to result in the loss of more than 100,000 jobs this year. Texas can't create jobs fast enough to keep up with its rapidly growing population. Since 2007, the state's number of working-age residents expanded by 6.6%, nearly twice the national average. Factoring in that population growth means Texas would need to create another 629,000 jobs, or 5.6% more positions, just to reach its pre-recession employment level, according to the Economic Policy Institute. Many of the positions that have been created are on the lower end of the pay scale. Some 550,000 workers last year were paid at or below the federal minimum wage of $7.25, more than double the number making those wages in 2008, according to the Bureau of Labor Statistics. That's 9.5% of Texas' hourly workforce, which gives it the highest percentage of minimum-wage hourly workers in the nation -- a dubious title it shares with Mississippi.










chefgirl358: Posted: March 1, 2013 1:14 p.m.

Socalguy, if Texas sucks so bad, then how come its population is expanding by "nearly twice the national average"?


Indy: Posted: March 1, 2013 4:22 p.m.

Socalguy,

Thanks for the heads up on Texas . . . including the statistics you cited.

For me personally, any state that would elect somebody like Perry is a place I probably wouldn’t go to . . . since the guy is unqualified as his words and speeches testify.

In any event, moving jobs ‘state to state’ isn’t creating jobs.

And using taxpayer subsidized tax cuts for lure businesses just shows the power of lobbyist working against the public’s interest.

Finally, cherry picking statistics to support the same policies in Texas for here is misleading as your information notes . . .


bluto: Posted: March 1, 2013 5:16 p.m.

Funny, Windy slams TX because of Perry but lives in CA under Brown...you just can't make up stuff like this!


philellis: Posted: March 1, 2013 5:47 p.m.

bluto, it's a demand thing. If Brown raises your taxes so high that you move out of the state, you will be placing less demand on our state resources. Under WIndy's economic model, this is a good thing - even though you'll be taking your taxes with you.


Socalguy: Posted: March 1, 2013 7:22 p.m.

Texas is great if you are retiring and have no kids to worry about good schools, you can get a cheap house since you don't really have to be near a major metropolitan city where the jobs are and are ready for a simpler lifestyle. Its basically this, you get what you pay for. If you guys are so gung ho about Texas, sell you house in California and move out here and see what your money can buy you, and if you can live on a $12 an hour job, how much extra property taxes you will pay, what crummy schools your kids will go to. Its not all what its cracked up to be.


Bigcasino: Posted: March 2, 2013 12:08 a.m.

here's a thought. i know it's kind of off topic, but the govt should hire a million people for the social security admin, and another million for the veterans admin. all of them would work in new call centers to handle the incresing number of people calling. try calling either when your in your 40's, and you MIGHT talk to someone when your in your 60's.


OldReliable: Posted: March 2, 2013 11:37 a.m.

Socalguy, yeah right... Texas is awful which doesn't explain why people and businesses have been moving there in droves. Geez, get a grip! Liberals are steadily ruining California and if not for family here I would move to Texas in a heartbeat. I'll take Gov Perry over Gov Moonbeam any day!


bluto: Posted: March 2, 2013 2:59 p.m.

Socalguy, the bottom line is that I personally know a few people who left CA for greener pastures in TX, ID, AZ and UT.
One common theme among all of them is that they are amazed at how much money they have at the end of the month compared to when they lived in CA.
If you think it's fine paying enormous taxes so others can get free lunches and so unions can get what they demand, then stay. This place has morphed into a welfare state due to people like Lois/ladimas running the place.


Indy: Posted: March 2, 2013 9:02 p.m.

bluto wrote: If you think it's fine paying enormous taxes so others can get free lunches and so unions can get what they demand, then stay.

Indy: Interestingly, you seem to ignore facts like:

For 2007:

- the top 1% of income earners take about 25% of all adjusted gross income
- the bottom 50% of all income earners take around 10% of all AGI
- the 4 people out of 1,000 earn $1 million or more

For 1996:

- the top 1% of income earners take about 17% of all AGI
- the bottom 50% of all income earners take around 12.7% of AGI
- 1 person in 1,000 earn $1 million or more

There are more statistics to think about but the trending is that the top 1% gained roughly 47% more income while the bottom 50% lost 21%.

Why is it that the top income earners are doing so much better?

Political influence?

And who are getting ‘free lunches’?


Indy: Posted: March 2, 2013 9:04 p.m.

OldReliable wrote: Socalguy, yeah right... Texas is awful which doesn't explain why people and businesses have been moving there in droves.

Indy: Can you give us some statistics?

In order to make that statement, where did you get the information from?

If you dislike it here so much, why are you packing as I write this and join brother Perry?

What are you waiting for?


Indy: Posted: March 2, 2013 9:35 p.m.

chefgirl358 wrote: Socalguy, if Texas sucks so bad, then how come its population is expanding by "nearly twice the national average"?

Birth rates:
Texas 17.1 / 1000
CA 15.2

Population Density per Square Mile
CA 217.2
Texas 79.6

Total Population
CA 36.1 million
Texas 22.8 million

% Change in population 2000-2005
Texas 9.6% - 2.1 million added
CA 6.7% - 2.4 million added

So California’s population overall is growing in total faster but percentagewise slower.

Income per capita
CA - $37,094
Texas - $32,575

Health Index (http://www.statemaster.com/graph/hea_hea_ind-health-index )
CA – 6.51
Texas – (11.85)
You’ll have to see the link for the definition but a higher number is better

In any event, these stats are from statemaster.com


chefgirl358: Posted: March 3, 2013 1:06 a.m.

Indy, I was simply quoting Socalguy.

Personally, I've never been to TX, and would love to visit sometime. I know it's not the type of climate I wish to live in, and I find Perry pretty much an idiot, but I would take him a million times over this jackass Brown who's running our state so far into the ground it'll never dig out.


Indy: Posted: March 3, 2013 2:28 p.m.

chefgirl358 wrote;: I would take him a million times over this jackass Brown who's running our state so far into the ground it'll never dig out.

Indy: What is Brown doing that disturbs you most?


OldReliable: Posted: March 4, 2013 10:31 a.m.

Bob Williams, President of State Budget Solutions:

"Today's budget is another failure of the Brown Administration. This opaque budget is based on the assumption that federal funding will provide nearly 1/3 of California's total revenue. In addition, Gov. Brown's plan continues to underfund the actuarial annual required contributions to pensions. His plan sets the stage in California for an even larger state deficit in the coming years."


Socalguy: Posted: March 4, 2013 12:41 p.m.

So to the extent that taxes play a role in people choice of where to live , it's really about value — low taxes and "subpar" services or higher taxes and good services. Many people believe its all about State taxes and don’t want to pay higher taxes and are ok with the "subpar" services in Texas and have changed their lifestyles and get much less.



bluto: Posted: March 4, 2013 12:55 p.m.

Indy, you can cut and paste all the statistics you want to, then talk to people who have actually made the move.
You may be amazed at what you can learn yourself.


OldReliable: Posted: March 4, 2013 2:20 p.m.

Hey Socalguy, have you ever considered that Texans just may be more self reliant that California entitlement grabbers? Hello...


ohhyaa: Posted: March 4, 2013 5:21 p.m.

To: Lois

Even though you wasted my time with your moronic letter I choose to turn the other cheek and leave you with this parting gift.

TEXAS says NO to GUN CONTROL

TEXAS says NO to OBAMACARE

TEXAS says NO to STATE INCOME TAXES

TEXAS says NO to UNDERFUNDING SCHOOLS

TEXAS says NO to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

And Lois, don't think for one minute that I'm leaving the State. Nope, not a chance. I'm staying for the fight, 'cuz I was born and raised here too!


Socalguy: Posted: March 4, 2013 8:25 p.m.

Bluto... I have made the move, I have lived in Texas for 2 years...... it stinks.
Ohhyaa.... schools stink in Texas, The high school graduation rate, is 61.3 percent, puts Texas 43rd out of 50 in state rankings. Texas was already ranked 45th in 2008 for school funding per pupil, well before the 2011 Legislature slashed an additional $5.4 billion from funding for public education, it now puts them 49 out of 50 states. Texas ranks among the lowest in combined SAT scores , 47th out of 50 states, and is in the bottom quarter nationally in reading proficiency. Texas is ranked dead last for adults over the age of 25 with high school diplomas.


CaptGene: Posted: March 4, 2013 11:23 p.m.

Socalguy, got source?


ohhyaa: Posted: March 5, 2013 11:33 a.m.

@CaptGene, I spent about 5 minutes trying to validate whether-or-not Socalguy's facts were accurate or not. I know Texas has great options for higher education, but didn't see much specific to H.S. I didn't spend a lot of time though, since I have no plans of moving. I'm using my time more wisely... devising a plan that will chase the idiots like Lois away. Now wouldn't that be wonderful.


OldReliable: Posted: March 5, 2013 6:24 p.m.

Bravo, ohhyaa! Socalguy has no legit sources. Texas is an awesome State.


CaptGene: Posted: March 5, 2013 9:58 p.m.

I did a quick search as well, and found nothing on the school spending issue that backed up what he said. Not saying it isn't true, just want to see his source.


LADIMAS: Posted: March 5, 2013 11:56 p.m.

ohhyaa still reverting to crude and demeaning posting ??

"Devising a plan that will chase the idiots like Lois away. Now wouldn't that be wonderful"
"Even though you wasted my time with your moronic letter"

No one forced you to read the LTE , but you chose to be crude and demeaning,
in your quest to degrade, debase and disparage one's LTE !!!!




Socalguy: Posted: March 6, 2013 6:30 a.m.

Here you go....
http://savetxschools.org/how-we-stack-up/

The high school graduation rate, is 61.3 percent, puts Texas 43rd out of 50 in state rankings. Texas was already ranked 45th in 2008 for school funding per pupil, well before the 2011 Legislature slashed an additional $5.4 billion from funding for public education, it now puts them 49 out of 50 states. Texas ranks among the lowest in combined SAT scores , 47th out of 50 states, and is in the bottom quarter nationally in reading proficiency. Texas is ranked dead last for adults over the age of 25 with high school diplomas.

Also here are some more fun facts about Texas:

Texas ranks first in executions.
Texas ranks first in the number of uninsured.
Texas ranks second in food insecurity.
Texas ranks last in mental health expenditures.
Texas was labeled by the Annie E. Casey Foundation as “the worst state in America to be a child.”
Texas is 47th in tax expenditures that directly benefit their citizens.
Texas ranks last in the percent of population that has a high school diploma.
Texas ranks last in Workers’ compensation coverage.
Texas ranks 4th in the percentage of children living in poverty.
Texas ranks 2nd in the number of children enrolled in public schools.
Texas ranks 2nd in overall birth rate.
Texas ranks 49th in the number of poor people covered by Medicaid.
Texas ranks 48th in the number of people covered by employer-based health insurance.
Texas ranks 49th in per capita spending on Medicaid.
Texas ranks last in the percentage of non-elderly women with health insurance.
Texas ranks last in the percentage of women receiving prenatal care in the first trimester.
Texas ranks 49th in the average credit score of Americans.
Texas ranks 1st in the amount of carbon dioxide emissions.
Texas ranks 1st in the amount of toxic chemicals released into water.
Texas ranks 1st in the amount of hazardous waste generated.

http://lubbockonline.com/interact/blog-post/carol-morgan/2012-11-17/20-real-problems-texas-vstea-party-fantasies#.UTcoexxLlWl


Socalguy: Posted: March 6, 2013 6:42 a.m.

You basically get what you pay for, as my dad always said, nothing is free or cheap in this world. If you don't have a problem with less services provided by the State government for the poor and seniors and working citizens, dirtier air, crappy schools, more poverty, less health care, low paying jobs, higher property taxes, higher insurance costs, and the tax burden shifted from high earning corporations to the average individual then Texas is for you.


ohhyaa: Posted: March 6, 2013 10:50 a.m.

Well I guess I really struck a nerve with LADIMAS. Obviously you are quite familiar with my "demeaning and crude" posting style, so I won't bore everyone and break into burp song. Now LADI, I have a real problem with your "if you don't like California just leave" approach. Are you three years old? No LADI, I will stay entrenched, a much stronger person you. I will fight the fight to make California what it once was, the California I grew-up loving. Now if you don't like that then why don't you and your doggie hit the road. Oh and LADI, in my country AMERICA we don't say adios, we say bye bye.


LADIMAS: Posted: March 6, 2013 1:02 p.m.

Per ohhyaa "I will stay entrenched in California."

If so California will be the worst for it !!




Socalguy: Posted: March 6, 2013 1:06 p.m.

Ohhyaa and Captgene.... did you see my sources.....????


ohhyaa: Posted: March 6, 2013 4:24 p.m.

@Socalguy, you sure spent a lot of time detailing the negative points of Texas. You get an "A" for effort in my gradebook. Some of the points listed seemed repetitive and irrelevent like "Texas ranks 2nd in overall birth rate". Not sure what that means but I have respect for you for feeling passionate enough about your opinion to spend so much time with your post. Well it doesn't necessarily matter either way to me since, much to LADIMAS's dismay, I'm not moving from California.

As far as the purposes of this article, which I believe was to point out the "nerve" of Gov. Perry to look outside of his borders to boost his own State's economy, I applaude him. While we're busy saying thing like adios and get out of town, Perry is welcoming California businesses in with open arms.


Socalguy: Posted: March 6, 2013 6:07 p.m.

@ohhyaa, its funny when you are losing the argument you suddenly don't want to discuss it. I showed you the facts but you just want to ignore them

Here is form your previous post
TEXAS says NO to GUN CONTROL;
Texas is the the 25th deadliest state in the US
http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2011/01/11/20-deadliest-gun-states-from-mississippi-to-arizona.html

TEXAS says NO to OBAMACARE
Gov Perry refuses to expand Medicare will cost State $100 million and leave 1.5 million Texans uninsured.. wow that is something to be proud of.
ttp://www.texasobserver.org/rick-perrys-refusal-to-expand-texas-medicaid-program-could-result-in-thousands-of-deaths/

TEXAS says NO to STATE INCOME TAXES
True, but property taxes are the highest in the nation in Texas, some areas in Texas can tax you up to 4% (with an average of 3-3.5% of the value of your home. Car insurance is more expensive, property insurance is more expensive, electricity is more expensive, when you add all those up its more than the State Taxes I paid in California

TEXAS says NO to UNDERFUNDING SCHOOLS
Not sure where you even get this one....
The high school graduation rate, is 61.3 percent, puts Texas 43rd out of 50 in state rankings. Texas was already ranked 45th in 2008 for school funding per pupil, well before the 2011 Legislature slashed an additional $5.4 billion from funding for public education, it now puts them 49 out of 50 states. Texas ranks among the lowest in combined SAT scores , 47th out of 50 states, and is in the bottom quarter nationally in reading proficiency. Texas is ranked dead last for adults over the age of 25 with high school diplomas.

TEXAS says NO to ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION
And this one is a classic, in California 6.8% of the population are illegal immigrants, in Texas its 6.7% of the population.
tp://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/map_of_the_week/2013/02/map_illegal_immigrant_population_by_state.html


ohhyaa: Posted: March 6, 2013 7:06 p.m.

But I like the thought of someone stealing a horse and getting hung for it. Socalguy, I'm not afraid of a fight. I get such a giggle from blog fighting. Here's another reason to love Texas. They aren't afraid to say they are Christian and on election night, every four years, they are such a pretty color of red on the map of our nation.


CaptGene: Posted: March 7, 2013 11:46 p.m.

This is what happens when you cherry pick your stats. You give the year 2008 per student spending, and make it sound like TX is worse than CA because they don't spend as much per student. Yet, in that very same year, TX enjoyed a 4 point higher graduation rate than CA did. If the goal is to spend more per student than CA is surely better than TX, if the goal is to graduate students then CA loses.

http://edmoney.newamerica.net/sites/newamerica.net/files/articles/grad%20rate%20ppexpend%20082.PNG


ricketzz: Posted: March 13, 2013 10:31 a.m.

In a perfect world you get what you paid for.



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