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The morality of our nation is gone

Posted: August 12, 2014 2:00 a.m.
Updated: August 12, 2014 2:00 a.m.

Just saw a news report on Channel 7 about the United States Postal Service immortalizing the late Janis Joplin by putting her picture on a stamp.

What in the heck were they thinking? With all of the military heroes and great citizens and leaders in our nation, they pick a junkie, a heroin addict, to immortalize and praise?

That is just one of the many reasons that the morality of our nation has gone/is going to hell in a hand basket.

What does this tell the youth of our country?

Play the guitar, use heroin and become a star and a junkie and they will praise you with awards and a stamp by the U.S Postal Service?

Or just be a junkie and you can be a hero of the year or a poster child for the USPS.

The Postal Service deserves to go bankrupt with this kind of thinking.

I do not care what kind of star she was. I don’t care how good some people may have thought she was.

She died a junkie, a heroin addict, from an overdose of heroin. Plain and simple, just a plain junkie, nothing more and nothing less.



Lotus8: Posted: August 12, 2014 6:22 a.m.

Take it easy there Dick. If a simple stamp gets you this worked up, I'd hate to see what happens when something that really matters happens in your life. Pour yourself a drink, put on some soothing music and breathe deeply for a good twenty minutes and a stamp will suddenly be only a stamp.

Who even uses stamps for anything other than paying an occasional random bill anyway? I don't notice who is on a stamp and certainly don't consider anyone being on a stamp as the nation holding out someone as a hero. Bugs Bunny, Maggie Simpson, and Tweety Bird have all appeared on stamps as well. The Beatles were featured on a stamp and I'm certain they used drugs on more than one occasion.

Your note would have been more effective had you instead focused on other people who were perhaps more deserving of this honor, rather than telling everyone that she used drugs and was worthless for doing so. I'll have you know that the last three presidents all admitted to using drugs before becoming president, and I don't think you would call their lives worthless no matter what political camp you fall into. Our current one was the head of the Choom Gang for goodness sake! Drugs have inspired people and artists for millennia to create some of the greatest pieces of music, paintings, etc.

OldReliable: Posted: August 12, 2014 9:11 a.m.

You get what you tolerate.

The USPS should establish a line of stamps that honor our fallen soldiers and our Medal of Honor recipients.

ricketzz: Posted: August 12, 2014 9:56 a.m.

The USA should get over the idea that war is a noble pursuit. While you're at it, put this guy on a stamp. I dare you.

BrianBaker: Posted: August 12, 2014 10:25 a.m.

He already was on a stamp, ricketzz.;_ylt=AwrSbgasI.pTey4A7epXNyoA;_ylu=X3oDMTB0c2FxYXU4BHNlYwNzYwRjb2xvA2dxMQR2dGlkA1NNRTM5OF8x?_adv_prop=image&fr=yfp-t-901&va=stamp+iwo+jima

zra: Posted: August 12, 2014 10:32 a.m.

I have a feeling our friend Dick, while expressing such objection to Janis Joplin's likeness being placed on a stamp, would be mourning the loss of Robin Williams as tragic.

EgbertSouse4U: Posted: August 12, 2014 11:58 a.m.

And Dick is probably an ELVIS fan as well.

Don't let this stuff keep you up, neighbor.

therightstuff: Posted: August 12, 2014 12:12 p.m.

There are more obvious ways to measure the fallen morality of our culture than who gets put on a stamp. I was never a Joplin fan but I have no problem with her image on a stamp for her influence on American music. And I'm quite sure many fallen heroes have been honored on stamps in the 44 years since her death and many will come after her, including one for Robin Williams which will be truly sad to see.

chefgirl358: Posted: August 12, 2014 12:27 p.m.

I don't have a problem with putting pop culture people on stamps. USPS has had great success selling stamps with the liknenesses of Marilyn Monroe (drug addict), James Dean (suicide), Elvis Presley (hello!), Jimi Hendrix, Jim Morrison, etc.

A lot of talented people have dark demons, like Robin Williams. That doesn't mean we shouldn't celebrate their talent and contributions.

EgbertSouse4U: Posted: August 12, 2014 1:20 p.m.

Well put, Chefgirl.

OldReliable: Posted: August 13, 2014 9:12 a.m.

Agreeing with the Chef.

ronos: Posted: August 13, 2014 10:44 a.m.

Attacking a dead performer who you obviously know absolutely nothing about is truly an immoral act. Janis Joplin's influence on Ameirican Culture is Legendary, and Dick Casaroni's vicious attack on her memory is outrageous.

17trillion: Posted: August 13, 2014 11:30 a.m.

"Janis Joplin's influence on Ameirican Culture is Legendary"

Really? Sheesh, the bar must be pretty low then.

Unreal: Posted: August 13, 2014 2:25 p.m.

What about that druggie JFK ? He was on a stamps. What about the past 3 presidents? Or is cocaine and pot not enough for you?

You say she was "nothing more than a junkie"? She was someoness daughter,
sister, friend. She was a wonderful performer. She was a talented song writer. She is still one of my favorites.

Dick, your name says it all.

Piece of my heart

Me and Bobby McGee

Cry Baby

Kozmic Blues

Get it while you can

Move over (written by Janis)

Try (Just a little bit harder)

Ball and Chain

Hound Dog (Sung by Elvis Presely WRITTEN by Janis)


Down on me

stevehw: Posted: August 13, 2014 3:26 p.m.

Here's the list of people on stamps:

How many less-than-perfect people can YOU find on this list?

I swear, some people have WAY too much time on their hands...shees.

hopeful: Posted: August 13, 2014 3:46 p.m.

I know many of you are not Christ-followers, but for those of you, who are, I would suggest reading James 4:11-12, Proverbs 6:16-19 and Romans 2:29-32 and then read Matthew 7:1-5. Jesus calls his followers to love others, not to condemn them.

EgbertSouse4U: Posted: August 13, 2014 3:56 p.m.

hopeful: I sure hope you are referring to the original letter writer in your post.

Unreal: Posted: August 13, 2014 4:00 p.m.

She was raised in Texas as Christian by a mother who also taught Sunday School. Because of grace we know that sinners are welcomed into heaven as long as they accept the free gift of Jesus sacrifice.
I hope to hear her sing again one day.

hopeful: Posted: August 13, 2014 4:03 p.m.

Yes I am, but my ultimate hope is that all Christ-followers will stop and think before spouting out like the LTE writer did. There is so much hate in the world right now, which is very sad, in my opinion!

Unreal: Posted: August 13, 2014 4:04 p.m.

I forgot about "Mercedes Benz" where she sings a cappella. I love that one too.

stevehw: Posted: August 13, 2014 4:10 p.m.

"Jesus calls his followers to love others, not to condemn them. "

I think there's another LTE on this forum where this message might be of use...

therightstuff: Posted: August 13, 2014 7:13 p.m.

Steve, what a cool site about the stamps. Loved it. Until recently honorees had to be deceased for five years but I'm glad the post office changed that rule. Thanks for sharing the list.

By the way...check out how the prices have risen. But to hand deliver my letter to anyone, anywhere in the U.S. is still a bargain.

ricketzz: Posted: August 14, 2014 11:06 a.m.

The lady had a demon or 2, which is predestined when your heroes are people like Miss Billie Holiday. Janis was a bright comet.

17trillion: Posted: August 14, 2014 12:42 p.m.

"Jesus calls his followers to love others, not to condemn them. "

"I think there's another LTE on this forum where this message might be of use..."

Never let it be said that ol Steve is sharp enough to recognize irony when he writes it.

Unreal: Posted: August 14, 2014 1:10 p.m.

17trillion: Ha Ha

Allan_Cameron: Posted: August 15, 2014 4:55 a.m.

Two fact corrections:

1. James Dean did not commit suicide. He was killed in a car crash.

2. Janis did not write "Hound Dog". It was written by Jerry Lieber and Mike Stoller.

The Post Office makes stamp decisions based on projected sales revenue.

ricketzz: Posted: August 15, 2014 10:31 a.m.

Janis was a fan of Big Momma Thornton, for whom Hound Dog was penned.

chefgirl358: Posted: August 15, 2014 12:23 p.m.

Allan, oops yep you're right about James Dean dying in a crash. I remember that fact now that you mention it but his life was such a train wreck I (wrongly) assumed his death was due to suicide, o.d., etc.

Unreal: Posted: August 15, 2014 1:43 p.m.

Looks like I had the wrong info on Janis writting Hound Dog. Thanks Allan.

But she still is one of the greats.

tech: Posted: August 15, 2014 3:17 p.m.

Dean was driving a Porsche 550 Spyder in his fatal accident.

JMasonmail: Posted: August 15, 2014 5:44 p.m.

Judy Garland, who was also honored on a USPS stamp, suffered from addiction her entire life and died of an overdose, as have many other people, famous and unknown. To label someone as "just a plain junkie, nothing more and nothing less" sounds harsh and imperious. A thoughtful person would have some pity. As for her talent, try to sing along with her... bet you can't.

timothymyers02: Posted: August 15, 2014 6:32 p.m.

When Mr. Cesaroni finally decides to unclench the kill zone will be a 20 mile radius, minimum!

EgbertSouse4U: Posted: August 15, 2014 6:33 p.m.

Not to mention geniuses like Michelangelo, Van Gogh, or photographer Diane Arbus if we'd like to touch on the art world. Shame to completely disregard someone's special gifts because they have struggled with addiction or mental illness.

chefgirl358: Posted: August 16, 2014 1:11 a.m.

So going on Dick's logic we shouldn't honor a brilliant actor, comedian, and generous humanitarian like the amazing late Robin Williams because he too struggled with addiction at one time and took his own life because of his inner struggles? No way man, he should be on the next set of stamps!

ricketzz: Posted: August 17, 2014 10:19 a.m.

Walt Disney died from complications of his daily "vitamin" shot.

This country has never been big on "morality". We are here to plunder, apparently.

ricketzz: Posted: August 17, 2014 10:23 a.m.

Two men in the early 1960s were given pretty much identical prescriptions for dilaudid and liquid meth. One was President of the USA; the other was a rude comic, son of a stripper. One has an eternal flame and the other is a sick joke punch line.

Whisper: Posted: August 22, 2014 5:55 p.m.

She would fit right in in Santa Clarita with all the junkie teenagers. The teens getting high in parks while there mothers are at the gym, Starbucks or getting there feet massaged. And , no, we shouldn't honor Robin Williams. Although a great actor and comedian, he was also a coward. Suicide is for cowards. Cowards like the teens that are being raised in SCV.

ricketzz: Posted: August 24, 2014 10:13 a.m.

Mr. Williams reportedly was taking anti-Parkinson's meds, one of which may have had a suicide warning. Mr. Williams was very ill and should not have been left alone for 11 hours and 45 minutes, behind a closed door.

A lot of these mindless needless deaths could be avoided by the personalities having one competent friend. Or a guru, or someone who isn't hanging on for Vampiric reasons. Hire a freaking reformed druggie as consultant. Hire a "seen it all" bodyguard to live in the house.

Mr. Williams; loved by millions around the world had no one to check on his welfare; two weeks out of rehab, with a new physical challenge, died alone.

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