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Hooray for concerned U.S. citizens like Brian Baker

Posted: July 9, 2014 2:00 a.m.
Updated: July 9, 2014 2:00 a.m.
 

Brian Baker’s column published in The Signal June 30 (“The IRS is far from earning back our trust”) is spot on!

As Americans, we have just celebrated our freedoms with Independence Day, yet that holiday is clouded with promise of our government dismissing many of our constitutional rights. We should all wake up and speak out.

Thank you, Brian Baker, for your article in The Signal June 30.

 

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BrianBaker: Posted: July 9, 2014 6:39 a.m.

Mr. or Ms. Bottaro, if you read these comments, thank you for those kind words.

I truly appreciate them.


OldReliable: Posted: July 9, 2014 7:07 a.m.

I always appreciate Brian Baker's written opinions here in The Signal. Thank you Brian for writing about the things that so many of us believe in.


therightstuff: Posted: July 9, 2014 7:07 a.m.

BINGO


BrianBaker: Posted: July 9, 2014 7:13 a.m.

OR, TRS, thanks to you guys, too.


Nitesho: Posted: July 9, 2014 7:46 a.m.

BINGO


BrianBaker: Posted: July 9, 2014 7:55 a.m.

LOL

Thanks, Nitesho.


ronos: Posted: July 9, 2014 9:08 a.m.

Ah Yes The Conservative Echo Chamber of mindless conspiracy theories.


17trillion: Posted: July 9, 2014 9:09 a.m.

BINGO


tech: Posted: July 9, 2014 9:47 a.m.

The comment section wouldn't be complete without a drive by ad hominem from ronos.


tech: Posted: July 9, 2014 9:48 a.m.

Nicely done, P. Bottaro. And to you as well, Brian. As you no doubt intended, your column elicited some reality based discussion about a serious issue.


AlwaysRight: Posted: July 9, 2014 10:10 a.m.

BINGO.


CastaicClay: Posted: July 9, 2014 11:14 a.m.

Yeah GleeOP club.


BrianBaker: Posted: July 9, 2014 12:33 p.m.

17tril, tech, AR... thanks, guys, I really appreciate it.

Ronos and CastaicClay, always nice to see the ObaMessiah Church Order Of Kool-Aid Gulpers drop by. If something I've written hasn't annoyed you Dem/socialists, I always figure I'm not being clear in what I'm writing.

Ronos... "conspiracy theories"? What are you babbling about?

Go back and read my column again, and tell me where I've used the word "conspiracy" in there even once. Then try and find one thing I wrote that wasn't completely factually correct. I'll be right here awaiting your response.

I don't think I'll hold my breath. I'd end up looking like a Smurf.


tech: Posted: July 9, 2014 3:57 p.m.

CastaicClay and ronos, brothers-in-inanity. :-D

They demonstrate this level of intellectual gravitas and engagement: Driving past a pedestrian at 65+ mph, mooning them and shouting Party slogans.

Let the adults know when you're ready to have a serious dialectic discussion.


BrianBaker: Posted: July 9, 2014 4:20 p.m.

Hahaha, tech!

What imagery....


Lotus8: Posted: July 9, 2014 6:12 p.m.

My father was an attorney. He would always tell me that if you can't attack the facts, attack the people. Well, by calling people conspiracy nuts who are simply stating the truth that our government has been lying to us about things like the IRS scandal (lost computer and deleted emails? please...) you are essentially acknowledging that you can't argue the facts. You agree that it looks really bad for your blue team, so you try to dismiss anyone who states the obvious as a kook. Pretty lame.

By the way, the red team supporters do the same thing when their guy is in power. The last red guy in power spent like a drunken sailor, stepped in a giant hornet's nest in the middle east and did nothing to secure the border. But I hear he's a pretty decent painter now...


Lotus8: Posted: July 9, 2014 6:13 p.m.

That comment above was meant for the two fellows posting drive by conspiracy accusations


BrianBaker: Posted: July 9, 2014 7:00 p.m.

Lotus8, there's the old law school dictum that goes like this:

When the facts are on your side, pound on the facts. When the law's on your side, pound on the law. When neither the facts nor the law are on your side, pound on the table.

Kinda reminds me of our two swoop-by Kool-Aid gulpers.


I agree that the last GOPer in power was a lousy Prez, but I also DON'T recall him getting such willfully blind cheerleading and excuse-making from our side of the aisle.

In addition to which, where were ANY activities of such debased and repugnant corruption? There weren't any. He may have been a lousy and profligate Prez, but I think he was actually an honorable man.

Way more than can be said for the current jackanapes at 1600 Pennsylvania Ave, or any of his minions.


ricketzz: Posted: July 10, 2014 7:03 a.m.

George Bush killed almost 6,000 Americans and 100,000+ Iraqis, and destroyed actual scenery from The Bible. George Bush wanted to create a Libertarian paradise in Iraq but he instead unleashed 1,000 years of bottled up anger.

Everybody talks about Cheney being the former CEO of Halliburton, privatization, civilian contractors, etc. Who asks about the ownership of Halliburton? It's been in the Bush family since before Vietnam. Brown and Root? Bush family. Dresser Industries? Bush family.

I could go on about Senator Prescott Bush and Thiessen steel, but another time.


BrianBaker: Posted: July 10, 2014 8:20 a.m.

No, ricketzz, you can blame that "bottled up anger" on people that long preceded Bush. Your knowledge of the history of the region is profoundly lacking.

The strife in that region goes back thousands of years, based in clan and tribal rivalries exacerbated by Islam. It actually evidenced itself as action against us all the way back in the Carter administration, with the takeover of our embassy in Tehran.

There's a little history lesson for ya.


therightstuff: Posted: July 10, 2014 11:35 a.m.

"""George Bush killed almost 6,000 Americans and 100,000+ Iraqis"""

Running a little low on the medications today, ricketzz?

Amazing how the far-left fringe never has an unkind word to say about the terrorists who blew up the Twin Towers and continue a rampage of death and destruction throughout the world.


BrianBaker: Posted: July 10, 2014 12:34 p.m.

Yeah, it's all Bush, all the time.


stevehw: Posted: July 10, 2014 1:41 p.m.

"I agree that the last GOPer in power was a lousy Prez, but I also DON'T recall him getting such willfully blind cheerleading and excuse-making from our side of the aisle."

I do.


stevehw: Posted: July 10, 2014 1:44 p.m.

"Amazing how the far-left fringe never has an unkind word to say about the terrorists who blew up the Twin Towers and continue a rampage of death and destruction throughout the world. "

Again, the Bush apologists try to conflate 9/11 with Iraq. (Aside from the completely erroneous statement that the left "never has an unkind word" blah blah blah).

" I also DON'T recall him getting such willfully blind cheerleading and excuse-making from our side of the aisle."

Seems the excuse-making is still going on. No surprise there.


stevehw: Posted: July 10, 2014 1:46 p.m.

"The strife in that region goes back thousands of years, based in clan and tribal rivalries exacerbated by Islam. It actually evidenced itself as action against us all the way back in the Carter administration, with the takeover of our embassy in Tehran.

There's a little history lesson for ya. "

Care to go a little further back? Who was it who installed the Shah and his repressive regime, and why? Something about geopolitics?



stevehw: Posted: July 10, 2014 1:58 p.m.

"In addition to which, where were ANY activities of such debased and repugnant corruption? "

Oh, I don't know...I might put violating the Constitution by spying on American citizens without a warrant in that category. And, of course, we'll never know what deal Cheney made with the oil companies, because the details of that meeting is *secret*. Torturing people is pretty debased and repugnant, if you ask most people (I know, sadistic far right-wingers think it's great). There's always the Minerals Management Service and their cocaine and sex parties with oil companies. Or the disappearing billions in cash that no doubt lined the pockets of a few contractors over in Iraq and Afghanistan. Don't forget the US attorneys. Valerie Plame. Jack Abramoff. Signing statements and the "Unitary Executive" theory for doing whatever the President wants to, regardless of the law (perhaps Obama should take a hint from Bush, as the Republicans didn't seem to care one whit when Bush used signing statements and this "theory").

That's just a start, of course.

Expect the usual Bush apologists in 3...2...1...


therightstuff: Posted: July 10, 2014 7:21 p.m.

No apologists here. Bush was wrong and made massive mistakes. But with your leader drowning in corruption in 2014, all you can do is dig up crap about Bush from 10 years ago. Typical Obama wh0re.


BrianBaker: Posted: July 11, 2014 7:47 a.m.

Stevie: "'The strife in that region goes back thousands of years, based in clan and tribal rivalries exacerbated by Islam. It actually evidenced itself as action against us all the way back in the Carter administration, with the takeover of our embassy in Tehran.'

"Care to go a little further back?"


Than what? "Thousands of years"? How far back do you want to go, stevie? Are you having problems with reading comprehension?

As to Carter, what did I write? That was the first time the strife "evidenced itself as action against us". Get it? That's the first time they attacked US.

Really, do try to keep up. I'm not using complex sentences or anything.


ricketzz: Posted: July 13, 2014 7:19 a.m.

Bush and Cheney knew 9-11 was coming and did nothing to stop it. At the same time they were affiliated with a foundation advocating a muscular USA establish permanent bases in SW Asia from which they could control the big oil puddle. The foundation paper (from before Bush v Gore) said a "Pearl Harbor like" event was needed to get the American people to back such an aggressive move. When Bush got an extensive outline of the situation hand delivered to him by a CIA official he haughtily told the courier, "Ok, you covered your @$$". Taken separately none of these and a thousand other little events are insignificant, but when assembled chronologically a definite gestalt of Big Oil defining the world emerges.

This is heavily footnoted. Nothing is assumed.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline


CaptGene: Posted: July 13, 2014 9:51 a.m.

cricketzz: "Bush and Cheney knew 9-11 was coming and did nothing to stop it."

This is a great example of what it looks like when someone turns into the skid of crazy.


tech: Posted: July 13, 2014 3:35 p.m.

Mental wounds still screaming
Driving me insane
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train
I'm going off the rails on a crazy train

I know that things are going wrong for me
You gotta listen to my words
Yeah

- Ozzy Osbourne


ricketzz: Posted: July 15, 2014 7:45 a.m.

This is heavily footnoted. Nothing is assumed.

http://www.historycommons.org/timeline.jsp?timeline=complete_911_timeline


stevehw: Posted: July 16, 2014 5:14 a.m.

'It actually evidenced itself as action against us all the way back in the Carter administration, with the takeover of our embassy in Tehran.'

"Care to go a little further back?"


Than what? "Thousands of years"? How far back do you want to go, stevie? Are you having problems with reading comprehension? '

I thought it was obvious that I was referring to the reference to the takeover of the embassy. I'll try to be more clear in the future.



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