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Compulsion is not compassion

Posted: June 10, 2014 2:00 a.m.
Updated: June 10, 2014 2:00 a.m.
 

The entire liberal edifice rests upon the premise that the unrestrained free market doesn’t work in meeting certain essential societal needs.

However, it only stands to reason that if society freely recognizes an essential societal need in the voting booth, it will freely recognize it outside the voting booth.

In other words, compulsion is not necessary for compassion.

Compulsion is merely a means to shift one’s own conscience-driven responsibility onto other people, and is therefore not only immoral, but uncompassionate, socially destructive, and ethically corrupting.

 

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ricketzz: Posted: June 10, 2014 7:54 a.m.

The Government is what protects most people from the "unrestrained free market".
There were "stable" markets before deregulation. Now the retail investor sees that Wall Street and Las Vegas Blvd have too much in common, as far as the little guy goes. Both games are rigged to favor the house (and corrupt elements in government).


Lotus8: Posted: June 10, 2014 10:16 a.m.

Anyone who promotes anarchy, lack of any restraint or regulation, and such things is living in a dream world. Look how well anarchy and lack of a credible legal system and law enforcement works in Africa. While I support limited government, lack of government would be an even worse state of affairs than our current situation. Trying to rope liberals into one big bucket of confused folks standing on an immoral platform is also a bit of a broad brush stroke, don't you think? There are probably just as many conservatives standing ready to push their religion upon you with the help of the same government mechanisms if given the opportunity.

Just trying to provide a counterpoint here.


philellis: Posted: June 11, 2014 7:02 a.m.

Counterpoints are good, but assume that all conservatives are religious or that only conservatives are religious. Neither is true. Those broad brush strokes are all so tempting. :)


Lotus8: Posted: June 11, 2014 11:05 a.m.

Phil. I purposefully add in things like that line about conservatives and religion because normally folks are on one side or the other, and a line like that appeals to someone rooting for the blue team. It is in their language, so to speak. I pray that everyone pops the cord out of the base of their skull and exits the political matrix, where everyone is marked with a blue or red dot. But until that day, one must enter the matrix in order to defeat it once in a while...


philellis: Posted: June 11, 2014 2:07 p.m.

Yes, but conservative aetheists and religeous liberals will not be in agreement and you risk losing those folks on your remaining arguments.


Indy: Posted: June 13, 2014 6:26 p.m.

Rob wrote: The entire liberal edifice rests upon the premise that the unrestrained free market doesn’t work in meeting certain essential societal needs.

Indy: I would add that the ‘entire conservative edifice’ can’t grasp the same thing . . .

We can see that there really is no ‘free market’ and that the shortcomings of capitalism are indeed hurting the majority of Americans, the 99% if you will that have seen their wages ‘stagnate’ since the last 70s while the top 1% has seen their incomes grow by over 200%!

Ignoring that type of fiscal reality completely discredits your premise.

And that’s the danger you find yourself in when you become ‘locked’ to a failing conservative ideology that simply ignores the results of our economy that everyone else can see and many are ‘living with’.


tech: Posted: June 14, 2014 4:27 p.m.

"We can see that there really is no ‘free market’ and that the shortcomings of capitalism…" - Indy

You never quite manage to provide your "solution" to the "problem". What is it?


Indy: Posted: June 15, 2014 6:04 p.m.

Tech wrote: "We can see that there really is no ‘free market’ and that the shortcomings of capitalism…" - Indy

You never quite manage to provide your "solution" to the "problem". What is it?

Indy: The solution is just recognizing the shortcomings and addressing them either through the tax base, regulations, or safety net programs.

This should be debated ‘openly’ . . .

Today, those benefiting the most of unrestrained capitalism are those who obtain the most wealth from same then double down that money with lobbyist that ‘tell our politicians’ ‘what to do’.

We need to start discussing ‘sustainable growth’ and what that entails.

Finally, we can keep the best parts of capitalism realizing that some Americans want to work harder and longer . . . but that type of approach isn’t always available to all Americans many of whom don’t have the ability to rise up out of poverty without help.


ricketzz: Posted: June 16, 2014 7:39 a.m.

Capitalism as currently in fashion is inherently destructive to the greater good. The Supreme Court made fiduciary duty to shareholders superior to all other corporate goals. They made lying and killing justifiable, if it improves dividends. Cost v benefit analysis doesn't work with partial data, but it is used all the time to justify the indefensible. The kids see the absurdity of this, even if you don't. They will not live in a kleptocracy.


tech: Posted: June 21, 2014 11:20 p.m.

“The people cannot look to legislation generally for success. Industry, thrift, character, are not conferred by act or resolve. Government cannot relieve from toil. It can provide no substitute for the rewards of service. It can, of course, care for the defective and recognize distinguished merit. The normal must care for themselves. Self-government means self-support.” ― Calvin Coolidge



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