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Wings for Life World Run disturbed the peace for 2 hours

Posted: May 6, 2014 2:00 a.m.
Updated: May 6, 2014 2:00 a.m.

Editor’s note: The following was copied to The Signal but sent to members of the Santa Clarita City Council.


Anyone and everyone who signed off on issuing the permits for the World Run festivities to begin at 3 a.m. on Sunday should be immediately terminated from their jobs.

If elected officials like yourself and the City Council signed off on the permits for the World Run festivities, every single one of you should be forced to resign and be terminated from office.

It is absolutely beyond comprehension how this World Run was issued city permits allowing organizers to disturb the peace for more than two hours by using loud PA equipment for announcements, playing loud music and moving spot lights.

For years now, and regardless of what anyone says, the city of Santa Clarita has been in large part at times run without any common courtesy and consideration for its residents — and this is another example of the incredible lack of common sense coming from City Hall.

In closing, I feel entitled to a response and an explanation.



CSense: Posted: May 6, 2014 7:26 a.m.

I agree with John, I am just as pissed off as well. I thought there were laws against disturbing the peace. I am all for our city promoting athletic events, bicycle races, marathons, etc. And with ahead of time notice, I will alter my traffic patterns to allow for these events to occur.

But this event was the ultimate in rudeness and inconsideration. It opens the green light for any one with a cause such as promoting the sex life of the Australian swamp rat, to hold a loud rally complete with music and screaming and yelling at 3 AM in the mall parking lot.

If this is the consideration these promoters are going to show, then they should not be invited back. And who were the idiots that gave them the permit. Are they just going to change the laws any time they feel like it and force me to listen whatever cause is in vogue.

Again, the people responsible for issuing the permits should be fired and this should never be allowed to happen again. OR, just let me come over to their house at 3 am and play loud music, any time I feel like it and with no advance notice

JSMAS: Posted: May 6, 2014 9:08 a.m.

I participated in the Wings for Life World Run and I found it to be an incredibly inspirational experience. This unique event, taking place all over the world donates 100% of the entry fee to spinal cord research. I had the opportunity to talk with a few folks there with some debilitating injuries that go far beyond my own fused ankle which has caused me pain for many years. They were so appreciative that attention and funds were being brought to their cause, which is not as high profile as other medical challenges like cancer and arthritis. I am a walker and was being passed by people in wheelchairs and one amazing woman with spina bifida who was cranking it on her cane.

In contrast to Signal letter writer John Annoreno (and others) whose "peace" was disturbed by the event, I and many other people believe that hosting things like this are what make Santa Clarita great. It gives our City recognition and stimulates economic development. People like John who "feel entitled" to an explanation as to why their "peace" was disturbed for over two hours should consider looking at the big picture. To call for City Council members to be "forced to resign and be terminated from office" for approving this fund raising event is appalling and insensitive. My hope and prayer is that John himself will not find the need to be a part of a support group that benefits spinal injury research at some point. Life can change for any of us in an instant.

This was an incredibly well run even event and our City should be commended for hosting it.

projalice11: Posted: May 6, 2014 12:21 p.m.


17trillion: Posted: May 6, 2014 1:03 p.m.

"People like John who "feel entitled" to an explanation as to why their "peace" was disturbed for over two hours should consider looking at the big picture. To call for City Council members to be "forced to resign and be terminated from office" for approving this fund raising event is appalling and insensitive."

Hey JSMAS, what is appalling is your cavalier response to someone that was disturbed at 3 FRIGGIN AM IN THE MORNING! How do you know if or how much others donate to equally good causes without disturbing the peace at 3am? What is appalling is your ignorant attitude. We live here too and we're entitled to certain things like a degree of peace and quiet in the middle of the night. If spinal cord people need to screw with the quality of life of hundreds of residents to host your little event, then don't expect a lot of support. Now please tell me where YOU reside so I can host a charity function outside your bedroom window at 3am.

And Lois, you wouldn't have known either way since you're clearly deaf on such matters. "YEA FOR JSMAS"? How profound....

JSMAS: Posted: May 6, 2014 4:06 p.m.

17trillion...Really?? If you are so upset at being disturbed by this amazing world wide event, you do need to get more rest. Insensitive people like you that are so offended by something like this will not be swayed to think differently. It's your right to seethe in anger. Henry Mayo has a Cardio Lab that can take care of you when you need them.

You would hate us as neighbors. I confess to having a dog that occasionally will bark. Thankfully our neighbors are more gracious than you.

I do pray the you find the peace that you so desperately need.

hsSeriously: Posted: May 6, 2014 5:06 p.m.

Listen- The city SHOULD have warned the neighbors about the noise and the event. For sure.

The city probably didn't say anything (sooo many people out here had NO IDEA this world wide event was going was nuts!) because they knew people would try to shut it down ahead of time.

Think of the revenue it brought our city and the worldwide recognition as the only city in the Western US to have this event.

What is ONE night? Seriously, a wonderful event that raised tons of money for a great cause. You were disturbed for ONE night of your life so people could run for those who can't.

The city missed the mark when they didn't warn people. You could have kept your windows closed and worn earplugs OR you could have gotten up and watched in awe as almost two thousand brave people went for a run in the dead of night. It was pretty cool. I saw it.

Then I went back to bed.

philellis: Posted: May 7, 2014 8:12 a.m.

It amazes me that any charity would try to raise funds in a manner designed to alienate those who might otherwise contribute to the cause. The fact that a cause may be a good cause doesn't give it the right to ignore others. The City hosts other runs, but they are not scheduled at such a riculous time.

17trillion: Posted: May 7, 2014 8:23 a.m.

Maybe you can have your "amazing worldwide event" at a time other than 3am? Maybe you should consider that some people have infants or work swing shift or have sleep issues or a hundred other things before you consider hosting your "amazing worldwide event" at 3am?

And to hs, I can count 365 different great causes so the fact that it was, and I agree it is, a great cause, is totally irrelevant. Why don't we have an "amazing worldwide event" every night?

AlwaysRight: Posted: May 7, 2014 8:47 a.m.

Umm- why not do the run at 8am? I've done many early morning Sunday runs and it is not an issue. People understand and work with it.

The organizers of this event missed the point. Yes, its a great cause. So is cancer research, autism, heart disease, etc. But your right to hold a worthy fundraising event does not give you permission to infringe upon others rights. Its rude, arrogant, and insensitive.

Seems like a simple concept but this got missed. The organizers have now created an opposition group that did not need to exist. Not smart.

JSMAS: Posted: May 7, 2014 9:28 a.m.

Those who are haters of this event will continue to be haters...and that's OK. I get it. You don't want your peace disturbed for something like this.

The event needed to be done at 3:00 AM in CA as it was run at the same time all around the world. Perhaps that timing could be changed for next years event. In Florida it started at 6:00. I suppose they had a few irate retirees there since that's early. I do think that at better job could have been done notifying residents of the event and cutting the volume way down would have been good. This was a first time that could be corrected.

For whatever reason, Santa Clarita was chosen over San Diego, San Francisco, or any number of great cities in the west. Chances are they will choose another City next time, especially since a few people in AWESOMETOWN don't want it here. To me, events like the Amgen cycling event and the Marathon are good for the City. Of course some people don't like these events either because traffic patterns are disrupted for a few hours affecting their quality of life. Maybe the City should do no events and everyone would be happy?

You can learn more about Wings for Life here:

17trillion: Posted: May 7, 2014 9:50 a.m.

Haters? Are you that dense? Nobody says anything about the Amgen or the marathon because those events aren't held in the middle of the night. The significance of running this thing at 3am is lame. Would it have been any less significant to run it at 7am or 9am? I mean really, the only hater I see is you who doesn't give a damn that other people have the right to a reasonable nights rest without it being disrupted by a city sponsored event AT 3AM!!!! And finally, the other cities you mentioned have downtown areas that have few, if any, residential concerns. Pissing people off is sure a great way to get support for your "amazing worldwide event".

philellis: Posted: May 7, 2014 10:12 a.m.

17, of course we are haters - otherwise we would be agreeing with everything that JSMAS says and believes in. Apparently, JSMAS is not tolerant of anyone who disagrees with him/her.

CastaicClay: Posted: May 7, 2014 11:10 a.m.

It was run simultaneously around the world. Next time they will check with the world to make sure it is good for you.

17trillion: Posted: May 7, 2014 12:02 p.m.

I guess we're just lucky to have gotten the 3am slot. Where do you live Clay so I can wake you up at 3am for an "amazing worldwide event"?

CastaicClay: Posted: May 7, 2014 1:21 p.m.

I live in Castaic! Smart guy like you should have been able to deduce that.

philellis: Posted: May 7, 2014 1:39 p.m.

Not necessarily, as some of your posts make it seem like you live in the City of Santa Clarita. Your name might just be a reference to where you are from. A smart guy like you should have been able to deduce that.

CastaicClay: Posted: May 7, 2014 2:04 p.m.

some of your posts make it seem like you live in the City of Santa Clarita. Such as?

17trillion: Posted: May 7, 2014 2:05 p.m.

Oh, so when you get your welfare check it just says Castaic under your name? Are you like Santa Claus, the kind of famous person that requires no address, just a name?

What's your address 17t? Why, it's earth smart guy!

philellis: Posted: May 7, 2014 3:16 p.m.

I'll point one out next time it occurs.

AlwaysRight: Posted: May 7, 2014 4:35 p.m.

The other cities were smart enough to avoid infuriating their residents.

JSMAS- you are typical of so many people today. They cannot see an issue from another person's viewpoint. Names are called, insults thrown, and nothing gets resolved. If the organizers had thought this through a bit better, this could have been avoided.

tpaul: Posted: May 7, 2014 4:38 p.m.

That stupid dog next door, barking WITHOUT warning at 3AM unbelievable. And don't even get me started on the sirens all hours of the night.

JSMAS: Posted: May 7, 2014 5:20 p.m.

I see the perspective of others.: "I get it. You don't want your peace disturbed for something like this."

"It's your right to seethe in anger."

As I noted, things could have been done better: "I do think that at better job could have been done notifying residents of the event and cutting the volume way down would have been good. This was a first time that could be corrected."

I am guilty of being sensitive to the needs of the disabled. Being minimally disabled myself, I understand about ongoing pain and know many people who don't enjoy the same quality of life we do. They do it with grace and are an inspiration to me. I find it offensive when someone says: "If spinal cord people need to screw with the quality of life of hundreds of residents to host your little event, then don't expect a lot of support."

I get it. The "spinal cord people" will get no support from 17trillion. Anyone's life can be changed in an instant and they could be one of those "spinal cord people". Those in that position might think differently.

Just to be clear...I do understand peoples viewpoint who were negatively affected by this event. There ways the impact could have been minimized. For me, I just think a little more grace would be nice, but we all have the right to voice our opinions.

Boston2013: Posted: May 7, 2014 7:03 p.m.

Ok - enough. The REASON this run happened at 3 AM was this was a GLOBAL run. That means the run was held all over the world beginning at the same time, regardless of time zone or location. THIS is why it had to start at 3 AM in Santa Clarita. I am fairly sure this wasn't the sole location that was 'inconvenienced' by loud music, PA system announcements, and spotlights. This was the inaugural run as well, first time. Should we shut you down if you somehow make a mistake the first time you do something? I doubt you'd want to cut your own neck over a mistake or something you didn't see coming, give us some slack.

I have no clue what the person who claims Santa Clarita has a council that ignores residents is talking about, every time I have visited, I have been very impressed with your city, the options for active families, events etc, especially some great ones that bring others to your community and certainly help your local economy. I ran the half your city hosts last year and intend to run the full this year. I will try to ignore the negative few who have decided to crawl out from under their rocks just to argue.

These events are advertised, it's not our fault if you don't notice. Events such as these bring the same amount of backlash other places from non athletes and people who couldn't care less if their city promoted anything active and healthy that also supported a charity. I suppose I kind of see that attitude as a problem. One night with an event is not going to kill you.

I don't recall hearing sirens at all hours, barking dogs, yes there was a loudspeaker but I don't think it was in a residential area, we were running down main roads along businesses which were - imagine that - closed at 3 AM.

philellis: Posted: May 8, 2014 10:45 a.m.

The fact that we would rather sleep at 3:00 am does not mean we are insensitive to the plight of others or that we are not philanthropic. I do not support charities based on your schedule. It makes more sense that those that wish to seek charitable support be more considerate of those from whom they are seeking support.

timothymyers02: Posted: May 8, 2014 11:26 a.m.

I thought the elderly are less sensitive to noise because of hearing loss?

CastaicClay: Posted: May 8, 2014 12:08 p.m.

Back up your statement.

philellis: Posted: May 8, 2014 2:11 p.m.

Tim, are you speaking from experience or ??

AlwaysRight: Posted: May 8, 2014 3:03 p.m.

Hey, Boston2013. OK- enough. Everyone gets this was a worldwide event. But, how about apologizing instead of making excuses? Just because something is done the first time does not overshadow the fact that it was done poorly and better planning and oversight should have happened.

"These events are advertised, its not our fault if you don't notice." Wow. I guess this means "sucks to be you." I read the flyer that I got from the city announcing the event. I had no idea that the organizers would be dumb enough to have loudspeakers disturbing residents. Never occurred to me. Because some things seem to be common sense.

I am a runner and I do these types of events. But, I am also a citizen of this community. If you don't have respect for us, please take your event to some other community. I'm sure the City of Lancaster would love to host it next year. At 3 a.m..

Once again, better planning would have made a much more successful and less disruptive event. You inability to see that is disappointing.

CaptGene: Posted: May 9, 2014 12:01 p.m.

Having everybody start at the same time World wide is a gimmick, only simpletons believe that it "had" to happen that way.

Lotus8: Posted: May 9, 2014 2:59 p.m.

I love the contention that it had to start at 3 am because it was a global run. Actually, the rules were arbitrarily concocted for this first time event. Couldn't the runs have all gone in a wave starting at 8 am local time around the globe and progress/winners determined by distance traveled? Would that have lessened the money raised for the cause? Were people only doing this event because people around the globe who they couldn't see were running at the exact same time?

Look. I'm happy they raised money for a worthy cause. The run didn't need to happen at 3 am though. If you give on that point, I'll cede that several posters on here are overreacting nincompoops. Deal?

CaptGene: Posted: May 9, 2014 4:55 p.m.

Gee Lotus8, you must be a "hater".

MarkElsebusch: Posted: May 10, 2014 1:24 p.m.

Great idea! - shutting down the streets at 1:00am on a busy Saturday Night/Sunday morning just as the taxis, designated driver services, and private car services were trying to get folks safely home at bar closing time. It was impossible to reach patrons in a timely manner who had called for a safe ride home. Many of them just gave up waiting and drove home intoxicated. Please do not inhibit safe ride providers again.

Allan_Cameron: Posted: May 11, 2014 3:23 a.m.

As one of the 16 people who founded the City of Santa Clarita, does business with the present day City, who gets all the City bulletins, and reads three newspapers daily, I had absolutely no idea this event was taking place.

A thought for the folks who supported this charity event that began at 3:00AM. How many more participants and donors would have been part of this if it had been at a more "user friendly" hour?

How much more money would you have made, how much more live media coverage would you have received if the event was later in the day?

The novelty of people doing the same thing, at the same time, all over the world clearly defeated the idea of making money from all locations, having maximum participation at all venues, and, of course, being courteous guests in each location.

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