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Following the ‘established process’

Posted: February 5, 2014 2:00 a.m.
Updated: February 5, 2014 2:00 a.m.

(Councilman) TimBen (Boydston), if following the “established process” is the best way to achieve a given objective, why has the city wasted more than $7 million of taxpayer money on the Cemex issue?

Seems to me that the process needs to be reviewed.

Thank you for going to Sacramento to work on resolving the chloride issue. It is clear that application of the “established process” will cost us a hell of a lot more than $7 million this time.

Time to “think outside the box” and set politics aside.

I am happy to reimburse you for your expenses. We all know that much has been spent sending your peers to D.C.



lars1: Posted: February 5, 2014 4:04 p.m.

Mike, I dont know how you snuck this one in.
The ciy council members Weste, McLean, and Kellar are doing such a poor job.

philellis: Posted: February 6, 2014 8:17 a.m.

@lars - what is it that they should be doing that they aren't?

lars1: Posted: February 6, 2014 2:31 p.m.

Let me see if I have any examples for you philellis...

Weste, McLean, and Kellar....

1. Screwed up Chloride Scam. We are now going to be taxed extra hundreds to thousands every year to pay for their incompetence. We need competent people who have some expertise in this area representing us.

2. The Cemex scam has been going on for over 10 years. Kellar and Weste made many trips to Washington DC, and accomplished nothing other than enjoying themselves at taxpayer expense along with worthless buck.

3. Approved City projects without question. They were so bad, the public had to demand that they be redone. This happened with backin parking in Newhall and single lane of traffic on Decoro. The City knows how to get the elderly grandmothers approval. The City stated that backin parking would be safe for mothers and young grand children, since doors would open preventing young grand children from running into traffic. The City planner for the Walmart used the same logic that the Verminator Design "would be safe for moms and kids".

4. Approving the withdrawal from the County Library System.
Approving a $30 Million overbuilt Internet Cafe in Newhall.
Approving tens of millions of dollars, that resulted in closure of
Newhall business that heve been around for over 50 years.
Approving the $2.2 Million unnecessary roundabout, whose only purpose is
for an additional unnecessary $1 Million Art Project.

5. Stupid and unnecessary art projects around the city BUGS, WORM, TEEPEE.
The publics impression of this effort eventually put a stop to it.

6. Total disconnect and disregard for the Publics opinion, other than an angry Public mob.

7. Asking the public what they want in the center of the roundabout, ignoring what the public wanted, and choosing what less than 10% of the public wanted.

8. This has not happened yet, but with their track record, it will happen,
once aqgain ignoring the publics opinion on the city billboard web site.
Back in 1990 Marsha McLean was a public defender along with 3,000
citizens. The City manager and city council were making back-room deals
with the developers of Elsmere Canyon Dump. The city supported the dump,
with land swap deals, that they felt benefited the city.
Marsha and 3,000 public citizens opposed this, and it was defeated.

Today, Marsha is part of a City that is a disgrace. They will approve the
Ugly Huge Electronic Billboards that Metro is asking for. The Public does
not want these ugly devices, but the city and city planning commission has
already approved them and made financial deals with Metro.

philellis: Posted: February 6, 2014 3:52 p.m.

Well, the library decision was a correct one. Can you explain how approving tens of millions of dollars resulted in the closure of Newhall Hardware? Thanks

OldReliable: Posted: February 7, 2014 7:42 a.m.

Phil, wasn't the routing of traffic around downtown Newhall a big cause for Newhall Hardware? Interested in your opinion. Thanks.

philellis: Posted: February 7, 2014 8:49 a.m.

If Newhall Hardware was your destination, traffic patterns were no problem. Many complained that parkingg was a problem, but I never had as much of a problem there as I did in other locations that were quite successful - Trader Joes, as an example. My worst parking experience at Newhall Hardware was that I had to go completely around the block to get a place right in front of the store! It amazes me that a store with such fine customer service didn't survive better against the bigger box stores. Also, I never had any difficulty in finding what I needed. If I couldn't quickly find it on the shelves, a readily located staff member quickly solved my problem.

cj64: Posted: February 7, 2014 10:15 a.m.

I used to park in Newhall Hardware’s lot across the street next to their nursery and lawnmower shop. Then, if my memory is correct, the city of Santa Clarita threatened them with eminent domain on this property. Under this threat their parking lot was sold to the city and now is a parking area for the Metrolink station.

Other long term small businesses have closed. They did not get any help from the City. My guess is Newhall Hardware, Moores Sandwich Shop, Billys Sporting Goods, Newhall Ice Company etc, did not fit the city's idea of an Arts and Entertainment district for the thousands of Condos and Arpartments that are planned there. The City council members who own property in that area will make alot of money.

Now I see the City is trying to close the small business that supports other local small businesses in our area. They are threatening closing the OutDoor Sign company. The City will then be going into the Electronic Billboard Business, catering to Big Business that will provide the City with Millions, over the citizens objections.

If you are a small business operating in the city, watch out!. The city will be looking to shut you down, and replace you with a Big Chain that will bring in more Sales Tax Revenue for the City.

philellis: Posted: February 7, 2014 1:19 p.m.

A big chain will only bring in more sales tax revenue if shoppers would rather shop at the big chain than what current stores. Thacker Stationers didn't close from a desire on anyone's part for more sales tax. Rather it closed from a customer preference for the big box stores such as Staples.

AlwaysRight: Posted: February 7, 2014 3:03 p.m.

Newhall Hardware was a victim of Home Depot. I only went to NH when I needed some doo-hickie that was unique to a 1971-vintage home. Or, I did not know how to do something and the folks there would tell me. Otherwise, the prices and assurance of in-stock inventory drew me to HD like a bee to honey. Traffic patterns were of no consequence.

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