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Jonathan Kraut: Heroes or vicitms?

Posted: March 5, 2013 2:00 a.m.
Updated: March 5, 2013 2:00 a.m.
 

I am having a problem with associating the term "hero" with every law-enforcement officer and government employee who has been harmed or died on duty.

Taxpayer money is funding the payroll and benefits of those willing and able to serve on the public’s behalf. But the simple fact of being injured and killed while an employee and performing prescribed work, whether it be in the armed forces, law enforcement, or emergency services, does not only alone qualify one as a "hero."

The recent deadly rampage of former cop and psycho killer Christopher Dorner has given renewed opportunity to apply the term "hero" to anyone who stood in Dorner’s path.

Exalting those that simply were shot by Dorner diminishes the value we bestow on true heroes and simplistically obscures "victim" and "hero" into one and the same.

The American Heritage Dictionary defines a hero as: "A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life."

I consider a hero someone voluntarily who risks or dedicates one’s self to the support and aid of those in need or strives to accomplish a noble act above and beyond what is expected or required.

To me, police officers who are shot in their patrol car while stopped at a red light are not heroes simply because they were shot.

This does not mean they were not heroic for some other deed, but being a victim alone, as in this instance, offers no example of any heroic trait.

I see no heroism in an Air Force pilot who is shot down over enemy territory and then kept as a prisoner of war, as was Senator John McCain. There are many war heroes, but being shot down, captured, and tortured makes McCain simply a casualty of the Vietnam War.

To me there is no heroism about two sheriff’s deputies who were ambushed by Dorner in the Big Bear area because in their search for Dorner they were shot.

It was their job and paid obligation, treacherous and dangerous as their assignment was, to investigate a cabin in which Dorner happened to be hiding. Just being the random victim of a nutcase in itself is not heroic.

Lt. Brian Murphy, critically injured in a mass shooting at the Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, last August to me is a hero. Responding to reports of gunshots at the temple, Lt. Murphy was shot by a deranged gunman as he exited his patrol car.

Being initially shot was not what makes Lt. Murphy as hero. It was his choice once he was down to keep moving and drawing additional bullets (he was ultimately shot 15 times and survived) from the gunman and buying time for other officers to arrive — that’s what makes him a hero.

The selfless and brave efforts in 2009 of Marine Sgt. Dakota Meyer — who chose to risk his life to evacuate not just one but five truckloads of wounded Afghan and American soldiers while surrounded and under intense enemy fire — makes Sgt.Meyer a hero.

Army Staff Sgt. Clinton Romesha motivated and rallied his demoralized unit and then lead counter-attacks against hundreds of Taliban fighters at Combat Outpost Keating, Afghanistan, in 2009.

Although completely surrounded, because of the aggressive acts and leadership exhibited by SSG Romesha, 20 of those 28 soldiers survived by confusing the enemy, which forced the Taliban to regroup, permitting the time needed for rescue. SSG Romesha is a hero.

The countless volunteers of the SCV Bridge to Home Homeless Shelter, without pay or consideration for themselves, who offer care and sustenance to our homeless — they are heroes.

The hundreds of school children and their parents who choose to raise and donate funds to the less fortunate, whom they will never meet, are heroes.

Faith volunteers who feed the hungry, clothe the shivering, shelter the abandoned, and nurture empty spirits are heroes.

Regardless of the degree of danger one is in, it is rising to meet the needs of others or pursuing a noble calling, and not being an unlucky and a random victim, that for me defines the honor "hero."

Jonathan Kraut serves in the Democratic Party of the SCV, on the SCV Human Relations Forum, and on the SCV Interfaith Council. His column reflects his own views and not necessarily those of The Signal or other organizations. Democratic Voices appears Tuesdays in The Signal.

Mar. 5, 2013 02:00a.m. EST Jonathan Kraut: Heroes or vicitms? The Signal

I am having a problem with associating the term "hero" with every law-enforcement officer and government employee who has been harmed or died on duty.

Taxpayer money is funding the payroll and benefits of those willing and able to serve on the public’s behalf. But the simple fact of being injured and killed while an employee and performing prescribed work, whether it be in the armed forces, law enforcement, or emergency services, does not only alone qualify one as a "hero."

The recent deadly rampage of former cop and psycho killer Christopher Dorner has given renewed opportunity to apply the term "hero" to anyone who stood in Dorner’s path.

Exalting those that simply were shot by Dorner diminishes the value we bestow on true heroes and simplistically obscures "victim" and "hero" into one and the same.

The American Heritage Dictionary defines a hero as: "A person noted for feats of courage or nobility of purpose, especially one who has risked or sacrificed his or her life."

I consider a hero someone voluntarily who risks or dedicates one’s self to the support and aid of those in need or strives to accomplish a noble act above and beyond what is expected or required.

To me, police officers who are shot in their patrol car while stopped at a red light are not heroes simply because they were shot.

This does not mean they were not heroic for some other deed, but being a victim alone, as in this instance, offers no example of any heroic trait.

I see no heroism in an Air Force pilot who is shot down over enemy territory and then kept as a prisoner of war, as was Senator John McCain. There are many war heroes, but being shot down, captured, and tortured makes McCain simply a casualty of the Vietnam War.

To me there is no heroism about two sheriff’s deputies who were ambushed by Dorner in the Big Bear area because in their search for Dorner they were shot.

It was their job and paid obligation, treacherous and dangerous as their assignment was, to investigate a cabin in which Dorner happened to be hiding. Just being the random victim of a nutcase in itself is not heroic.

Lt. Brian Murphy, critically injured in a mass shooting at the Sikh Temple in Oak Creek, Wisconsin, last August to me is a hero. Responding to reports of gunshots at the temple, Lt. Murphy was shot by a deranged gunman as he exited his patrol car.

Being initially shot was not what makes Lt. Murphy as hero. It was his choice once he was down to keep moving and drawing additional bullets (he was ultimately shot 15 times and survived) from the gunman and buying time for other officers to arrive — that’s what makes him a hero.

The selfless and brave efforts in 2009 of Marine Sgt. Dakota Meyer — who chose to risk his life to evacuate not just one but five truckloads of wounded Afghan and American soldiers while surrounded and under intense enemy fire — makes Sgt.Meyer a hero.

Army Staff Sgt. Clinton Romesha motivated and rallied his demoralized unit and then lead counter-attacks against hundreds of Taliban fighters at Combat Outpost Keating, Afghanistan, in 2009.

Although completely surrounded, because of the aggressive acts and leadership exhibited by SSG Romesha, 20 of those 28 soldiers survived by confusing the enemy, which forced the Taliban to regroup, permitting the time needed for rescue. SSG Romesha is a hero.

The countless volunteers of the SCV Bridge to Home Homeless Shelter, without pay or consideration for themselves, who offer care and sustenance to our homeless — they are heroes.

The hundreds of school children and their parents who choose to raise and donate funds to the less fortunate, whom they will never meet, are heroes.

Faith volunteers who feed the hungry, clothe the shivering, shelter the abandoned, and nurture empty spirits are heroes.

Regardless of the degree of danger one is in, it is rising to meet the needs of others or pursuing a noble calling, and not being an unlucky and a random victim, that for me defines the honor "hero."

Jonathan Kraut serves in the Democratic Party of the SCV, on the SCV Human Relations Forum, and on the SCV Interfaith Council. His column reflects his own views and not necessarily those of The Signal or other organizations. Democratic Voices appears Tuesdays in The Signal.

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Comments

chico: Posted: March 5, 2013 9:20 a.m.

Among other things, liberals love assigning who gets credit for what.

They say things like 'You didnt build that'.

Now this author asserts to know who does or doesn't die a hero.

A smart guy indeed.


ricketzz: Posted: March 5, 2013 9:26 a.m.

What rock did this clown crawl out from under?


chico: Posted: March 5, 2013 9:36 a.m.

I think it's possible someone be considered a hero just for showing their face in public, after writing what could be construed as defamatory remarks.


CaptGene: Posted: March 5, 2013 10:20 a.m.

I agree. I'm tired of hearing about a fireman being a hero every time they get kitty out of a tree. As the author said, it doesn't mean he hasn't been heroic in the past, but this event is not worthy of the praise.

The author missed (perhaps intentionally) an opportunity to detail a home town hero, Army Spc. Rudy A. Acosta, 19. He sacrificed his life so another could live. That makes a hero.


chefgirl358: Posted: March 5, 2013 10:29 a.m.

This piece is disgusting. Wonder how he'd feel if one of those "victims" was his daughter, brother, dad, son, etc.? I'll bet he'd use the word hero!


therightstuff: Posted: March 5, 2013 10:50 a.m.

"""I consider a hero someone voluntarily who risks or dedicates one’s self to the support and aid of those in need"""

Every person in law enforcement, fire prevention or our military "voluntary risks or dedicates their self to the support and aid of those in need" nearly every day. On any given day they could find themselves in a life-threatening situation through a hail of bullets or a devastating fire. They KNOW that but do it any way.

Mr. Kraut, you need to go back to writing about why you hate Republicans.


philellis: Posted: March 5, 2013 11:01 a.m.

Easy -- because they consider Sen. McCain to be a hero for his military service.


Dumbounded: Posted: March 5, 2013 11:02 a.m.

What weird responses, other than Captgene. Have you guys missed the point? Chefgirl, you've been horribly bitter for a couple days, what gives?

I got his point and I agree 100%. A cop that gets shot is no more or less a hero than some random civilian who gets shot. For god's sake, he even defined heroism! One has to sacrifice to be a hero and just being in the wrong place at the wrong time is bad luck, not heroism.


Manq: Posted: March 5, 2013 11:05 a.m.

Excellent column, Jonathan.


CastaicClay: Posted: March 5, 2013 12:20 p.m.

Nothing voluntary going on there. They are all getting paid. That is why they are doing it. It is not automatically heroic.


LADIMAS: Posted: March 5, 2013 1:01 p.m.

A hero to me is one who shows great courage, OR "A PERSON WHO PERFORMS EXTRAORDINARY DEEDS FOR THE BENEFIT OF OTHERS"
Whether they get paid for it or not !!


chefgirl358: Posted: March 5, 2013 1:14 p.m.

Dumbounded, not true at all. A cop, soldier, firefighter, etc., puts their life on the line everyday for the community. They are heroes by definition. I do find his take on this to be disgusting, and I don't believe for one second that he wouldn't call someone a hero if it was someone he loved or cared about in one of those professions. Nothing bitter about it, it's just the way I see it.


Dumbounded: Posted: March 5, 2013 3:07 p.m.

"A cop, soldier, firefighter, etc, puts their life on the line everyday for the community"

No they dont! How many cops sit behind a desk? How many firemen go throughout the day without anwering a call? They are only "on" for 3 or 4 days a week anyway so to claim that a fireman puts his life on the line "everyday" is nonsense. Furthermore, the vast majority of our soldiers do absolutely nothing that endangers them in anyway shape or form. Yes, some of them are fighting in Afghanistan but most of them aren't. A soldier working in the Pentagon whose job it is to order toilet paper is not a hero.

If cops and firemen want my thanks, they can thank me when they get their pension. I do appreciate those in the military more though simply because they don't get the pay that cops and firemen get but they did volunteer.

Anyone that gets into a car puts their life on the line, big deal! Heroes are people that do heroic deeds not people who give speeding tickets all day or even rescuing people from a burning house. They are doing their jobs! A hero is someone in Islmanibutt Afghanistan who throws his body on a IED to save his buddies life!

Boy, being a hero sure isn't what it used to be. Next thing you know a hero will be some beef inspector that finds a couple pounds of bad steak somewhere.


chefgirl358: Posted: March 5, 2013 4:25 p.m.

Dumbounded, you don't necessarily pay all of their pensions. Many government employees pay into their own pensions. Also, many communities have ONLY volunteer fire depts. wow! Who's bitter now huh?

I'm guessing you don't have anybody in your circle of friends and family who does any of these jobs, if you truly had any insight (which you obviously don't) into what many of them face, I think you would be much more understanding.


therightstuff: Posted: March 5, 2013 4:28 p.m.

DB, you're right that many cops sit behind a desk but Mr. Kraut specifically called out Sheriff Deputy Jeremiah MacKay who was killed during a firefight with psycho murderer Christopher Dorner leaving behind a wife, a 7-year old daughter and a 4-month old son. Hero? naaahhhhh..... Just an hapless sucker collecting a paycheck who happened to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

Kraut also called out John McCain who was shot down over enemy territory and then kept as a prisoner of war for several years. Hero? naahhhhh.... McCain's actions inspired no one. He was just killing time in his cage.

According to Mr. Kraut - and apparently some of his supporters in this thread - sixth-graders doing a car wash or volunteers at a homeless shelter are more heroic than officers shot in the line of duty or prisoners of war fighting to protect freedom. With all the things dividing us as a nation, must we also be divided over who is a hero and who isn't? Mr. Kraut's self-proclaimed "judge" of who is a hero and who isn't serves what purpose?


LADIMAS: Posted: March 5, 2013 4:44 p.m.

DD,

"They are only "on" for 3 or 4 days a week anyway so to claim that a fireman puts "his life on the line "everyday" is nonsense."

The nonsense in the sentence above is nonsense !!
What difference does it make about how many days the fireman or a
policeman works ??
They put their life on the line "EVERYDAY" These "HEROES" are on call 24/7 !!

We will all be "VICTIMS" if these "HEROES" were not on the the front line protecting us !!


Dumbounded: Posted: March 5, 2013 6:36 p.m.

Ok fine. I guess to me a hero is not someone who simply does his/her job. A hero is something more, something special, someone who places their safety or life in jeapordy to assist or save another. It is someone extraordinary who did something extraordinary. I don't think the 20 or 30 or 40 million active and retired members of law enforcement, fire, and military all qualify. This is my personal opinion. They do their jobs and I'm thankful, but I will not worship the vast majority of them simply for doing what they're supposed to do.

The real irony is that Chris Dorner was mentioned. Was he a hero before he became a bad dude?


CaptGene: Posted: March 5, 2013 10:15 p.m.

Well, we must be awash with heroes because there throngs of people lining up to be firemen and police. For the record, I come from a family with a long and storied history both in the military a law enforcement. They too get tired of the "hero" label being thrown around for every little old lady that gets helped across the street. Lenny Skutnik, that's a hero, start at 1:35

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gmzuPTnBhKE


ricketzz: Posted: March 6, 2013 9:47 a.m.

Senator McCain is not a hero for getting shot down. He refused the North's offer of early release and stayed longer than he had to, despite his VIP status. That was noble.

Every firefighter will live a shorter life because of toxic gasses. Every cop in the field has a bullseye on his back.

Heroism is always in the eyes of the beholder. To me, anyone who isn't a coward is somewhat a hero.


philellis: Posted: March 6, 2013 1:22 p.m.

You should read McCain's account of his imprisonment to understand why he would go out early. In is words:

But I knew that the Code of Conduct says, "You will not accept parole or amnesty," and that "you will not accept special favors." For somebody to go home earlier is a special favor. There's no other way you can cut it.



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