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Gary Horton: Plight of Iraqi Christians

Posted: August 27, 2014 2:00 a.m.
Updated: August 27, 2014 2:00 a.m.
 

“Oops!” Gov. Rick Perry infamously uttered during the 2012 Republican primaries.

Has George W. Bush ever uttered a private, “oops!” for the approximately 1.5 million Iraqi Christians dislocated and slaughtered since his ill-considered Gulf War II?

Most Americans had long forgotten the horrific story of Iraq’s abandoned Christians until public awareness was again jarred with yet another round of Christian killing — this time, courtesy of the ISIS gang.

This is the Christian slaughter news of today, but a decade ago, part of what was accomplished in “Mission Accomplished” was the careless opening of Iraq’s previously padlocked Pandora’s box of sectarian hatred, violence and hell.

When we took out the heavy hand of Saddam Hussein, Islamic radicals, previously controlled by a strong state, were freed to run amok. And 2000 years of ancient Christianity has since suffered devastation continuing through today.

Now we’ve learned of a hyper-radicalized ISIS chasing some last remaining Christians up a mountainside for one last grand killing. “Oops.”

Americans are just waking to a hazy, fuzzy understanding of just what mischief our meddling made.

Indeed, facing an internationally viewed humanitarian crisis of tens of thousands of Christians slaughtered on a mountaintop, Barack Obama dispatched fighter jets and drones effectively pushing back a blood-crazed ISIS.

It looks like we’re now headed back to Iraq to clean up some of the mess left behind by our prior intervention.

Boy, we went into that China shop and tore it up — and only now, with our recent jet attacks, are we repairing scant shards of Christian dishes we trashed.

It just so happened that our Lutheran church had a guest Egyptian pastor speak this past Sunday. This pastor runs emergency humanitarian aid in Iraq and visits Christian congregations raising funds for the Christian crisis in Iraq and Syria.

He spoke of whole churches bombed, abandoned, or both. Entire Christian enclaves and neighborhoods emptied, the families driven out, killed, expelled, raped, maimed.

He showed pictures of men and women yet wandering without anything but clothes, completely left to themselves like abandoned dogs with nowhere to sleep and nothing to eat save for literal food scraps.

“How could this have happened after nearly two thousand years of substantial Christianity in Iraq?” so many must have wondered.

Our Iraq II war unleashed this Christian genocide when we upended Iraqi civil order. Yet Americans have largely turned blind a eye to the slaughter.

“Mission Accomplished” felt so much more rewarding than “Christians slaughtered.”
Where there had once been more than 1.5 million secure Iraqi Christians, just short years into the war a million had been chased from their churches and homes, with tens of thousands murdered.

Last night I reran a 2007 “60 Minutes” episode featuring then-Bagdad Anglican Vicar the Reverend Canon Andrew White.

Asked “60 Minutes,” “You were here during Saddam’s reign. And now after. Which was better?”

“The situation now is clearly worse than under Saddam,” White replied.

“There’s no comparison between Iraq now and then. Things are the most difficult they have ever been for Christians. Probably ever in history. They’ve never known it like now.”

“Wait a minute. Christians have been here for 2,000 years,” “60 Minutes” replied.

“Yes,” White said. “And it’s now the worst it has ever been.”

Saddam was plainly a dictator covered in blood — but this same dictator kept a lid on the religious boiling pot simmering under his dictatorial thumb.

It may hurt our American psyche and mythos to face it, but in toppling Saddam’s state, America unleashed the “evil-doers” who’ve annihilated a 2000-year ancient Christian population.

Until Barack Obama’s bombing of ISIS, no official American effort was made to protect Iraq’s vulnerable Christian population. Left to fend for themselves, most survivors ended up refugees in what was then “religiously tolerant Syria” or sought the protection of tolerant Kurdish areas.

George Bush’s ill-conceived Iraq war diminished America’s morality as we ignored the resulting genocide against a defenseless Christian population.

As Americans wake up to the slaughter their war support enabled, one hopes our national soul can be washed clean by acknowledgement and ownership of this tragic outcome at our hands.

Obama’s bombing and intervention will surely help on the margin — but it is too little, too late, as a timeless and stoic people have tragically already been disposed and eradicated as casualties of a casually considered war.

This grand tragedy of Christian genocide is a sin of war Christian America yet largely remains to acknowledge, to confess, and to forever again forsake.

Gary Horton is a Santa Clarita resident. “Full Speed to Port!” appears Wednesdays in The Signal.

Comments

hepnerkid: Posted: August 27, 2014 11:32 a.m.

Some people learn from history and some are too frightened to consider the lesson. Seldom in history has the avoidance of a fight proven to be the best policy. Bullies are embolden by weakness. Time and time again, the path of non-resistance has been taken and the majority of the time it has ended in disaster.
Obama's lack of policy and his faint heart has led to this. Bush solved the first by eliminating a dictator and then obama and his sycophants let it all slip away. Now as a result of his incompetence, we are faced with a mess. George Patton Jr. famously said that he didn't like to pay for the same real-estate twice and that is exactly what we are doing here. You may complain about the plight of a group but the larger issue is in play. To move on an enemy in sudden and overwhelming strength is something that people pay attention to and don't want repeated. Obama is incompetent and utterly unable to handle this situation. If we had Bush at the helm, this would have never happened.


tech: Posted: August 27, 2014 12:24 p.m.

If only we had good old Saddam back, all would be well! :-D

The irony of "Full Speed to Port" advocating for brutal dictatorships as another opportunity to blame Bush is amusing indeed.

Expect more sycophantic flailing to deflect from the feckless incompetence of the current administration's "foreign policy". I'll stipulate that I'm misusing the term.


BrianBaker: Posted: August 27, 2014 12:34 p.m.

Yeah, I gotta agree, this column is pretty idiotic.

This is the kind of nonsense we've come to expect from the "Blame Bush" and "Blame America first" crowds. It shows a clear ignorance of both history, and the sectarian imperatives that drive actions in the region.

Religious persecution of Christians long precedes Bush. In 1918 the Muslim Turks drove the Christian Armenians into the desert in a massacre of over a million that actually led to the coinage of the term "genocide".

People who haven't actually lived in the region simply have no understanding whatsoever, for the most part, of the cultural issues in play. They try to make judgments based on the Western mindset and cultural values, and those are simply inapplicable and irrelevant in the region.




tech: Posted: August 27, 2014 12:56 p.m.

With the exception of Israel, I concur that Western values are largely irrelevant in the Middle East, Brian.

Once secular Turkey is going to repeat its Ottoman implosion as it devolves into Islamist chaos, guaranteeing it will never be part of Europe.

At some point,Turkey's military will be so neutered that the country's NATO membership will be revoked.

The historic cooperation of Israel and Turkey in a dangerously unstable region is past tense.


hepnerkid: Posted: August 27, 2014 12:59 p.m.

Obama is clearly the problem. He is a fool and was elected by fools. His goal from the beginning has been to bring down the United States. When you look at his six year record, you see how much he hates the U.S.
He called the shooting at Fort Hood work place violence. That would make the killing of a U S service man in
Afganistan by a local Afgani soldier more work place violence since the service man was on the job. These are acts of terror and should be called what they are. No amount of spin can change the truth.


BrianBaker: Posted: August 27, 2014 1:09 p.m.

Yes, tech, I should have mentioned Israel as the sole exception, now that Turkey is reverting.


tech: Posted: August 27, 2014 3:09 p.m.

Agreed that appeasement of savages and totitarian regimes isn't a strategy, hepnerkid.


jdebree: Posted: August 27, 2014 3:57 p.m.

I find it interesting that Mr. Horton views today's problems as solely resulting from Bush's actions. ISIS started in Syria (not Iraq), where the Syrians tried to overturn another vicious dictator.

Today's problems are sewn in the end to World War I. It was not because a Republican messed up; it was because of the way that the British and the French carved up the Ottoman Empire. Had they respected ethnic geography, and not put despots in place to keep control over the disparate ethnicities that were artificially thrown together. We probably would not have the issues we face today, including the Christian genocide mentioned in the article, but for the post-World War I actions of the French and British.


tech: Posted: August 27, 2014 4:07 p.m.

Agreed, jdebree. America has been attempting to clean up European colonial disasters for a century plus. This, after intervening in 2 World Wars and winning a Cold War to prevent Eurasia from spreading their appetite for totalitarian destruction beyond their borders.

The "blame America first" fans are ignorant of history. --edited.


philellis: Posted: August 27, 2014 4:30 p.m.

Just think how many more Kurds Saddam could have gotten rid of if we hadn't taken him down. I wonder what Gary has against the Kurds.


Nitsho: Posted: August 27, 2014 5:10 p.m.

I stopped reading after the first paragraph. Doesn't look like I missed anything...


tech: Posted: August 27, 2014 5:30 p.m.

You missed nothing, Nitsho. Mr. Horton has reverted to building a geopolitical worldview with his beginner's Lego set.


Lotus8: Posted: August 27, 2014 6:11 p.m.

Gary, you are a complete joke. Really. Totally. Are you even serious with this nonsense? Is this a spoof?

Do you not see that Islam has begun its own modern day crusade? It is telling everyone in its path to convert or be killed. It is NOT a religion of peace. Where is the throng of world Islamic leaders denouncing ISIS as blasphemers who should be shunned? Where is the outcry in the Islamic community that jihad is a fallacy, a corrupted notion crafted by a bunch of crazy people based upon some book written over a thousand years ago?

This warring between Islamic tribes and other religions has been going on for over a thousand years. It isn't due to George Bush's meddling. Give me a break. Do you realize that our current administration's support of the "Arab Spring" is what gave way to ISIS's rise to power (they gained serious assets and power through the Syrian rebellion against Assad that we supported and our pullout from the region)? The Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt? The current guy in the White House isn't some knight in shining armor who is riding in to save the day with some cruise missiles and air strikes. Do you really think simply lobbing some ordnance in there is going to do the job? If so, you are even more out to lunch than any of your previous submissions to this publication led me to believe.

Look, GWB screwed things up royally. I'm not here to defend him at all. We shouldn't have been in that region in the first place. I think we should be aligning with Russia and China against the Muslim terrorist empire that is forming. Both of those countries are dealing with "Muslim extremists/rebels/jihadis/fighters" (can't we just call them holy warriors?) and we would be better served to align with them on these matters than have to police this crap globally.

In summary, if you cared about the "progressive" (always makes me laugh) movement, you would quit writing these opinion pieces immediately. They are really doing a disservice to the cause brother.


AlwaysRight: Posted: August 27, 2014 6:13 p.m.

Or, just maybe, an inept president with no understanding of history or foreign affairs allowed a major threat to grow over the past 6 years that has resulted in genocide. This is like blaming Teddy Roosevelt for the poverty in Puerto Rico.

phil- Kurds, Shiites, Kuwaitiis, etc. Gary must dislike them all...


therightstuff: Posted: August 28, 2014 1:15 a.m.

I'm glad that Mr. Horton's daughter is recovering from her comma. Are commas contagious?


mg: Posted: August 28, 2014 2:26 a.m.

This is by far the most willfully blind column I have ever read in the Signal - and that says a lot. According to Mr. Horton, ALL the dynamics that created this catastrophe are a decade old, and nothing that has happened in the last six years had anything to do with it. How can he be serious? Welcome to Bush Derangement Syndrome at its worst. Gary, the current occupant of the White House has overseen a decline in American global influence unlike anything I have seen in my life. Our friends don't trust us, and our adversaries don't respect us, and the President would rather play golf than lead. He owns this, and it just may wind up defining his Presidency.


ricketzz: Posted: August 28, 2014 9:56 a.m.

Today's Middle East is a direct result of Shock and Awe and Debaathification of the Iraqi government. By the summer of 2003, after Mission Accomplished btw, the seeds of what you call ISIS were sown. By the "Surge" in year 4 of the war minority Sunni were already fiercely fighting back. We got them to stop for a while (Anbar Awakening), mainly with bribes. When al Maliki showed us the door he also stopped paying off the Sunnis; this is when ISIS captured Faluja, for all intents and purposes. Obama could have kept people in Iraq, but refused to do so because they'd be subject to civilian law enforcement. Cops don't boss our people around if we are there to rock and roll.


Lotus8: Posted: August 28, 2014 4:48 p.m.

Ricketzz, you are correct in your facts about the genesis of what is generally referred to as ISIS today. The best thing that ever happened to them was Saddam being booted from power, which Bush is responsible for. Like I said previously, I will in no way defend that tactical error by Bush and his cohorts. But to say that Obama hasn't emboldened them with his waffling around or outright support for their side when trying to take down Assad is laughable. By pulling out of the situation in Iraq in the manner that we did, we allowed ISIS to seize advanced weapons and piles of money that have made them into the most well armed and funded terrorist organization in the world. Obama seems like he is just out to lunch on these issues and just wants his presidency to be over so he can get on with playing golf and basketball while picking up $250K checks speaking on the rubber chicken circuit. I implore the American electorate to demand an adult who is up to the challenge during the next election. We can't survive another 8 years of having a child in office like the last two jokers.


tech: Posted: August 28, 2014 8:04 p.m.

If Sadam were still in power, wouldn't Iraq and Iran already be nuclear breakout states?


Indy: Posted: August 28, 2014 10:25 p.m.

Yes, Bush W sent the US into a unfunded Iraqi war (remember Bush W cut taxes at that time . . . . to which the US national debt ‘doubled’ during his 8 years) even though UN inspectors ‘on the ground’ found no WMDs.

When the US was in Iraq, no WMDs were found as well.

But further, the Bush Administration apparently did nothing to investigate any of the history between the various fractions that existed in Iraq.

Thus, when the Iraq government was overthrown, the sectarian violence was ‘unleashed’ and remains so today.

For me, I don’t understand why Iraq isn’t ‘divided’ to allow the Sunnis and Shiites to live in separate areas and create their own states.

Understandably, the ‘oil money’ is in play but I would think most Iraqis would be far better off if the sectarian religious sets were separated.

And now we have ISIS . . . an even more radicalized religious sect that seeks power through death and destruction.

The government of Iraq is now in a process of change and let’s hope the government becomes more representative of the model we have here in the US that ‘separates church and state’ and permits the nation to be run 'under law' and not any given religion.


stevehw: Posted: August 28, 2014 11:17 p.m.

" By pulling out of the situation in Iraq in the manner that we did..."

I wonder...just how much longer were we supposed to keep troops in Iraq getting killed, anyway? 5 more years? 10? 100?


tech: Posted: August 29, 2014 1:01 a.m.

An SOF Agreement doesn't necessarily require a direct combat role, Steve.

One might ask the same question about Germany, ROK, Okinawa, etc.


ricketzz: Posted: August 29, 2014 10:16 a.m.

Lotus8, would using proxies and coalitions be less inflammatory in the theater? Shock and Awe was a war crime.


therightstuff: Posted: August 29, 2014 12:28 p.m.

"""I wonder...just how much longer were we supposed to keep troops in Iraq getting killed, anyway? 5 more years? 10? 100?"""

I wonder how much longer Democrats will continue to blame George Bush for Barack Obama's own incompetence? 5 more years? 10? 100?

Just yesterday their president said he had "no strategy" to deal with ISIS. Today, he's on yet another series of Democratic fund-raisers.

Reason # 6,277 why I would never be a Democrat.


therightstuff: Posted: August 29, 2014 12:33 p.m.

“Oops!” Gov. Rick Perry infamously uttered during the 2012 Republican primaries.

How about these Gary by your leader:

After borrowing nearly a trillion dollars on a failed stimulus program: "I guess the shovel ready jobs were not as shovel ready as we thought" (oops)

After promising the American people 37 times they could keep their insurance if they liked it, "I regret that people were misled about keeping their own insurance" (oops)

Should Bush be blamed for these, too?


Lotus8: Posted: August 29, 2014 1:43 p.m.

At least Barry O told us the truth yesterday that he has no plan in place. Maybe he could have been working on that for the past couple of weeks instead of having a few cold ones out on the golf course each day? Total joke.


Nitsho: Posted: August 29, 2014 2:56 p.m.

TRS

Don't forget the IRS, Not a smidgen of corruption

ISIS - They are the JCV team

"R-S-P-E-C-T." --flubbing the spelling of Aretha Franklin's famous song "Respect" while paying tribute to the iconic singer, New York, NY (March 6, 2014)

"Even though most people agree... I'm presenting a fair deal, the fact that they don't take it means that I should somehow do a Jedi mind-meld with these folks and convince them to do what’s right." --mixing up Star Wars and Star Trek references while discussing working with Republicans in Congress (March 1, 2013)

"And finally, Bos, I just want to say thank you for Youkilis." –joking at a fundraiser in Boston about the Red Sox trading their beloved slugger Kevin Youkilis to Chicago White Sox, Obama's hometown team. The line drew boos from the audience. (June 25, 2012)

"When I meet with world leaders, what's striking -- whether it's in Europe or here in Asia..." -mistakenly referring to Hawaii as Asia while holding a press conference outside Honolulu, Nov. 16, 2011

"We're the country that built the Intercontinental Railroad." —Cincinnati, OH, Sept. 22, 2011

"We're not trying to push financial reform because we begrudge success that's fairly earned. I mean, I do think at a certain point you've made enough money. But, you know, part of the American way is, you know, you can just keep on making it if you're providing a good product or providing good service. We don’t want people to stop, ah, fulfilling the core responsibilities of the financial system to help grow our economy." —on Wall Street reform, Quincy, Ill., April 29, 2010

"One such translator was an American of Haitian descent, representative of the extraordinary work that our men and women in uniform do all around the world -- Navy Corpse-Man Christian Brossard." –mispronouncing "Corpsman" (the "ps" is silent) during a speech at the National Prayer Breakfast, Washington, D.C., Feb. 5, 2010 (The Corpsman's name is also Christopher, not Christian)

"The Middle East is obviously an issue that has plagued the region for centuries." --Tampa, Fla., Jan. 28, 2010

"UPS and FedEx are doing just fine, right? It's the Post Office that's always having problems." –attempting to make the case for government-run healthcare, while simultaneously undercutting his own argument, Portsmouth, N.H., Aug. 11, 2009

"The Cambridge police acted stupidly." —commenting on a white police officer's arrest of black scholar Henry Louis Gates Jr. at his home in Cambridge, Mass., at a news conference, July 22, 2009

"The reforms we seek would bring greater competition, choice, savings and inefficiencies to our health care system." --in remarks after a health care roundtable with physicians, nurses and health care providers, Washington, D.C., July 20, 2009


Nitsho: Posted: August 29, 2014 2:57 p.m.

"It was also interesting to see that political interaction in Europe is not that different from the United States Senate. There's a lot of -- I don't know what the term is in Austrian, wheeling and dealing." --confusing German for "Austrian," a language which does not exist, Strasbourg, France, April 6, 2009

"No, no. I have been practicing...I bowled a 129. It's like -- it was like Special Olympics, or something." --making an off-hand joke during an appearance on "The Tonight Show", March 19, 2009 (Obama later called the head of the Special Olympics to apologize)

"I didn't want to get into a Nancy Reagan thing about doing any seances." --after saying he had spoken with all the living presidents as he prepared to take office, Washington, D.C., Nov. 7, 2008 (Obama later called Nancy Reagan to apologize)

"I think when you spread the wealth around, it's good for everybody." -- defending his tax plan to Joe the Plumber, who argued that Obama's policy hurts small-business owners like himself, Toledo, Ohio, Oct. 12, 2008

"What I was suggesting -- you're absolutely right that John McCain has not talked about my Muslim faith..." --in an interview with ABC's George Stephanopoulos, who jumped in to correct Obama by saying "your Christian faith," which Obama quickly clarified (Watch video clip)

"I'm here with the Girardo family here in St. Louis." --speaking via satellite to the Democratic National Convention, while in Kansas City, Missouri, Aug. 25, 2008

"Let me introduce to you the next President -- the next Vice President of the United States of America, Joe Biden." --slipping up while introducing Joe Biden at their first joint campaign rally, Springfield, Illinois, Aug. 23, 2008

"Just this past week, we passed out of the U.S. Senate Banking Committee -- which is my committee -- a bill to call for divestment from Iran as way of ratcheting up the pressure to ensure that they don't obtain a nuclear weapon." --referring to a committee he is not on, Sderot, Israel, July 23, 2008

"Let me be absolutely clear. Israel is a strong friend of Israel's. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under a McCain...administration. It will be a strong friend of Israel's under an Obama administration. So that policy is not going to change." --Amman, Jordan, July 22, 2008

"How's it going, Sunshine?" --campaigning in Sunrise, Florida

"On this Memorial Day, as our nation honors its unbroken line of fallen heroes -- and I see many of them in the audience here today -- our sense of patriotism is particularly strong."


Nitsho: Posted: August 29, 2014 2:58 p.m.

"Hold on one second, sweetie, we're going to do -- we'll do a press avail." --to a female reporter for ABC's Detroit affiliate who asked about his plan to help American autoworkers

"I've now been in 57 states -- I think one left to go." --at a campaign event in Beaverton, Oregon

"Why can't I just eat my waffle?" --after being asked a foreign policy question by a reporter while visiting a diner in Pennsylvania

"It's not surprising, then, they get bitter, they cling to guns or religion or antipathy to people who aren't like them or anti-immigrant sentiment or anti-trade sentiment as a way to explain their frustrations." --explaining his troubles winning over some working-class voters

"The point I was making was not that Grandmother harbors any racial animosity. She doesn't. But she is a typical white person, who, if she sees somebody on the street that she doesn't know, you know, there's a reaction that's been bred in our experiences that don't go away and that sometimes come out in the wrong way, and that's just the nature of race in our society."

"Come on! I just answered, like, eight questions." --exasperated by reporters after a news conference

"You're likeable enough, Hillary." --during a Democratic debate

"In case you missed it, this week, there was a tragedy in Kansas. Ten thousand people died -- an entire town destroyed." --on a Kansas tornado that killed 12 people


therightstuff: Posted: August 29, 2014 3:32 p.m.

And then of course, there's all the times Obama repeatedly lied about a video being the cause for the terrorist attack in Benghazi to save his political ass during his re-election bid.

Obama makes Rick Perry look like Einstein.


tech: Posted: August 29, 2014 9:20 p.m.

Nitsho: Don't you know that Obama is the smartest man in the room wherever he is, including golf courses? Your quote listing is proof. By the way, I'm of Austrian descent and the Professor had special insight on my heritage. I was amazed!


ricketzz: Posted: August 30, 2014 10:00 a.m.

I am 1/8 Bavarian, 7/8 English. TRS is going to feel silly when he realizes the real lie about the "Innocence of Muslims" is that it had nothing to do with the arson at the Benghazi outpost.


therightstuff: Posted: August 30, 2014 4:10 p.m.

The real lie of the Benghazi attack was when your leader and his minions told the American people for WEEKS that it was NOT a terrorist attack but a spontaneous reaction to a video. They KNEW that was a lie but told it any way to protect Obama's re-election campaign.


ricketzz: Posted: August 31, 2014 10:23 a.m.


I have no leaders. I am not a sheep.

If you had been tuned in to global news the week prior to the September 12 diplomat deaths, like our national security people always are, you'd realize how stupid you sound. If you want a conspiracy follow the movie. Ask Romney why he had a stage set up at 8 AM the next day to denounce the President's FP.


tech: Posted: August 31, 2014 11:21 a.m.

Correlation

http://xkcd.com/552/


ricketzz: Posted: September 1, 2014 10:17 a.m.

If you have a theory that makes more sense let's hear it. Romney tried an early October Surprise and failed. Superstorm Sandy provided a real October Surprise, which proves God loves Liberals.


Indy: Posted: September 3, 2014 5:13 p.m.

Stevehw wrote: " By pulling out of the situation in Iraq in the manner that we did..."

I wonder...just how much longer were we supposed to keep troops in Iraq getting killed, anyway? 5 more years? 10? 100?

Indy: The bigger question is why the Iraqi’s won’t fight for their own nation, even with us giving them money and armaments.

We’ve seen that US fighters in a ‘civil war’ can’t get the people there to see their own self-interest.


Indy: Posted: September 3, 2014 5:15 p.m.

Therightstuff wrote: ""I wonder...just how much longer were we supposed to keep troops in Iraq getting killed, anyway? 5 more years? 10? 100?"""

I wonder how much longer Democrats will continue to blame George Bush for Barack Obama's own incompetence? 5 more years? 10? 100?

Indy: From above: “Yes, Bush W sent the US into a unfunded Iraqi war (remember Bush W cut taxes at that time . . . . to which the US national debt ‘doubled’ during his 8 years) even though UN inspectors ‘on the ground’ found no WMDs.

When the US was in Iraq, no WMDs were found as well.

But further, the Bush Administration apparently did nothing to investigate any of the history between the various fractions that existed in Iraq.

Thus, when the Iraq government was overthrown, the sectarian violence was ‘unleashed’ and remains so today.”


Indy: Posted: September 3, 2014 5:17 p.m.

Therightstuff wrote: And then of course, there's all the times Obama repeatedly lied about a video being the cause for the terrorist attack in Benghazi to save his political ass during his re-election bid.

Indy: Here again, let’s present what actually took place in Libya and move away from the ‘Fox’ innuendo and speculation that given its viewers as a proxy for ‘real news’:

Yet another setback for Benghazi conspiracy theorists
http://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/yet-another-setback-benghazi-conspiracy-theorists-0

By Steve Benen
The House Intelligence Committee is among the many congressional panels to investigate the deadly attack on the U.S. outpost in Benghazi in 2012, and its findings are reportedly complete. The committee’s report is not yet available, but Rep. Mike Thompson (D-Calif.) talked to the San Francisco Chronicle about the results of the inquiry.

The House Intelligence Committee, led by Republicans, has concluded that there was no deliberate wrongdoing by the Obama administration in the 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, said Rep. Mike Thompson of St. Helena, the second-ranking Democrat on the committee. […]

Thompson said the report “confirms that no one was deliberately misled, no military assets were withheld and no stand-down order (to U.S. forces) was given.”

The committee agreed Thursday to declassify its report, nearly two years in the making, and the findings will reportedly be available to the public once it’s cleared by intelligence agencies.

Just so we’re clear, this is a Republican-led committee, with GOP members outnumbering Democrats, 12 to 9.

And according to the Chronicle’s report, the committee’s findings are consistent with everything reality has told us all along: “There was no ‘stand-down order’ given to American personnel attempting to offer assistance that evening, no illegal activity or illegal arms transfers occurring by U.S. personnel in Benghazi, and no American was left behind.”

What’s more, the Obama administration’s process for developing “talking points” was “flawed, but the talking points reflected the conflicting intelligence assessments in the days immediately following the crisis.”

It would appear some Republican lawmakers who’ve spent 23 months screaming the exact opposite owe the public an explanation for why they were wrong.

Indy: My recommendation is this eBook that outlines the ‘actual’ events that took place: The Benghazi Hoax by David Brock, Ari Rabin-Havt and Media Matters for America (Oct 16, 2013)



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