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Steve Lunetta: Getting out of control

Posted: July 31, 2014 2:00 a.m.
Updated: July 31, 2014 2:00 a.m.
 

I don’t usually write consecutive columns about the same topic, but this situation seems to be careening out of control and our government seems impotent to stop it.

The issue is control at the border. And the storm clouds are forming rapidly.

We now have the governor of Texas, Rick Perry, sending the National Guard to the border to help our beleaguered Border Patrol stem the massive influx of young illegal immigrants.

Gov. Perry recently said, “I will not stand idly by. The price of inaction is too high.”

What does he mean by this? He is trying to stop the incredibly dangerous practice of sending unaccompanied children to this country.

He is trying to stop terrorists and criminals from slipping into our country. He is trying to staunch the flow of illicit drugs to our cities and school.

He is trying to be a leader where, currently, none exists.
And, no, my liberal friends. He is not doing this to be mean-spirited and because he hates brown people. Stop that ridiculous claptrap.

Gov. Perry is being something you don’t understand — a leader who respects the laws of the United States.

In the absence of any sane immigration policy from Washington, this governor is stepping up to the plate. If only our Gov. Moonbeam had the same guts.

Aside: it makes one wonder if Vladimir Putin would be so bold in the Ukraine if it was Perry sitting in the Oval Office. My guess is no.

Operation Strong Safety will intercept migrants by focusing on the Rio Grande region after repeated requests for help from the federal government went unheeded. Perry’s move will cost the state of Texas $12 million per month.

If it saves the lives of some of these children, it will be money well spent.

President Obama’s plan of $3.7 billion in spending includes some money for increased border security but, as is typical with liberal thinking, does more to treat the symptoms than get to the root cause of the issue — which is the sending of these children by Central American families.

If other border states replicated Perry’s move, border security would increase and the federal government would be forced to act.

The embarrassment caused to the Obama administration is mounting daily to the point where inaction would be viewed as treasonous.

Another disturbing thought — the situation at the border will be further destabilized by angry citizens who form vigilante groups to “help” the border patrol.

While most appear to be of the watch-and-report type, you can bet that somewhere along the line an armed confrontation may occur with disastrous results.

Obama must stop blaming other people for this issue. He owns it fully and outright.

He has the power to place a military contingent upon the border to encourage better choices on the part of our southern neighbors.

This does not require an act of Congress or voting new money.

Do it now.

But President Obama continues to sit in the White House, wringing his hands, refusing to act, and pointing fingers.

The failure of liberal policies and the double-cross of the reform initiatives that brought about the last Reagan amnesty have created the perfect storm.

Conservatives will not agree to amnesty without first securing the borders. You lied to us once, we won’t be fooled again.

If Obama was a leader, he would acquiesce to the forces of common sense and do what should have been done years ago — secure the border and create a sane system for guest workers to come to this nation.

Do it now.

Is Rick Perry doing this for political reasons? Partially, without a doubt.

But what can be said of a leader who has the gumption to try to fix a problem when no one else will? This speaks to the man’s character and his sense of right and wrong.

Ironically, the president’s gross failure on the border may be creating a juggernaut behind a Republican candidate that will sweep him into office in two years.

If Democrats were smart, they would begin to work with Republicans on a sensible border security plan to give them some credibility at the ballot box. Obama’s inaction will play directly into the Republicans’ hands.

When the federal government fails to act, others step forward to fill the gap. Well done, Gov. Perry.

Steve Lunetta is a resident of Placerita Canyon and is forming the Rick Perry California Fan Club. He can be reached at slunetta63@yahoo.com.

Comments

ricketzz: Posted: July 31, 2014 9:11 a.m.

Obama was elected to end the string of Buckaroo Banzai tough guys who show their stuff by killing our youth to help Lunetta get it up. War is stupid. Rick Perry is deranged. Putin has a right to stop NATO from coming up to his doorstep. We did the same thing in October 1962, as I recall. If North Korea made a deal with Mexico would we allow Taepo Dong missiles in Guaymas?


tech: Posted: July 31, 2014 11:19 a.m.

One often wonders what's in that head of yours, ricketzz. And then you tell us.


therightstuff: Posted: July 31, 2014 11:49 a.m.

"""But President Obama continues to sit in the White House, wringing his hands, refusing to act, and pointing fingers."""

When he's not doing fund raisers.


"""You lied to us once, we won’t be fooled again."""

Once? This is the same cheap politician who lied to us 37 times to get his healthcare scheme passed. (2013 Lie of the Year) The same disgraceful sleaze who repeatedly lied about four Americans murdered by terrorists to save his political campaign. The same narcissistic thug who's administration is not measured by accomplishment but by the number of Pinocchio's from Fact Checker. The same stuffed suit that most Americans believe is untrustworthy.

Why would any normal person take the word of a pathological liar for anything? How big of a gullible wh0re would you have to be to keep supporting and defending this guy?


chefgirl358: Posted: July 31, 2014 11:50 a.m.

Tech, you read my mind.


philellis: Posted: July 31, 2014 12:14 p.m.

I was wondering why he was blushing. :)


therightstuff: Posted: July 31, 2014 12:30 p.m.

I try not to wonder too much about what's going on in ricketzz head as it's a scary place. But yesterday's Freudian slip by Indy is priceless. This confession may be the best post ever. Here it is unedited:

Indy: Posted: July 30, 2014 5:29 p.m.

"""I’m sure Jesus would be as disappointed and ashamed at a media outlet like Fox deceiving and poisoning our political discourse . . . as I am . . ."""


projalice11: Posted: July 31, 2014 12:57 p.m.

OOPS +++++


BrianBaker: Posted: July 31, 2014 1:44 p.m.

I wouldn't get too excited about Lunetta's column today on this issue. In his last column, he already wrote that he supports illegal immigration:

http://www.signalscv.com/section/33/article/123470/

"I have written in this column in the past that I support illegal immigration. This position has earned me the ire of my fellow conservatives."


Damn right it did; rightfully so. Now he's sounding like a standard-issue leftist on the issue, talking out of both sides of his mouth.


Indy: Posted: July 31, 2014 4:35 p.m.

Therightstuff wrote: Once? This is the same cheap politician who lied to us 37 times to get his healthcare scheme passed.

Indy: It’s always amazing to me that stubbornness of this poster as he tries to erase the overwhelming support of the ACA even by republicans!

We’ve see in a recent survey that 74% of the republicans that bought a exchange policy, are happy with it. 74%.

Yet, this poster has somehow imitated those ‘old’ tape decks that keep looping trough the same old tired and worn out slogans.

As we all know that 8+ million people signed up with the ACA through the exchanges.

We have less people uninsured for health care in the US than ever before.

The only points this poster ‘ignores’ is why his party has kept some 5+ million poor people out of the Medicaid expansion.

Why would a religious conservative that purports himself to be a ‘Christian’ have such ‘un-Christian’ like behavior?

Oh, he hates Obama personally . . . and that hate overwhelms his Christian beliefs . . . I get it now . . .

“Darkness cannot drive out darkness; only light can do that. Hate cannot drive out hate; only love can do that.
Martin Luther King, Jr.”


Indy: Posted: July 31, 2014 4:42 p.m.

Tech wrote: One often wonders what's in that head of yours, ricketzz. And then you tell us.

Indy: One often wonders what type of educational background this poster has . . . and he won’t tell us.

But I have surmised that you’re a Sean Hannity disciple . . . when listening to one of his rants about Israel, he used many of the same words and terms you do . . .

Anyway, as I’ve noted before, I can help you better if I know where your educational deficiencies lie . . . I can surmise that you lack basics in economics, management, budgeting, science, environmentalism, and technology, but again, I can focus better to help you knowing your background.

Let’s see what Sean Hannity’s education is: Hannity dropped out of New York University and Adelphi University.


philellis: Posted: July 31, 2014 4:50 p.m.

Let’s see what Sean Hannity’s education is: Hannity dropped out of New York University and Adelphi University.

And that is important, why? I have seen CSUN MBAs who cannot graft an intelligent, coherent paragraph, even with reliance on Democratic talking points.


Indy: Posted: July 31, 2014 4:54 p.m.

Op-ed writer: … as is typical with liberal thinking, does more to treat the symptoms than get to the root cause of the issue — which is the sending of these children by Central American families.

Indy: I’m not surprised that this guy hasn’t any clue why people migrate.

We know that the poverty created violence and political instability

We know that over population and limited resources creates more poverty.

And yet, rather than address the socio economic issues in play here, we get the ‘build a bigger wall’ suggestion.

I remember as a kid the example of the Dutch boy plugging a leak in the dike system with his finger ‘believing’ that’s going to make the ‘wall stronger’ . . . and yet we’ve basically got the same little boy here in Lunetta raising the ‘fiction’ that we’ll secure thousands of miles of borders . . . not to mention our coastlines.

This type of thinking is why Reagan’s amnesty bill didn’t work.

When Regan took office, the world population was about 4 billion. Today, it’s over 7 billion.

What was the republican ‘solution’ to this? Cut off all US international non-abortive family planning!!! (commonly known as the Global Gag Rule: http://www.genderhealth.org/the_issues/us_foreign_policy/global_gag_rule/ ).

In any event, you can see that the poster’s adherence to religious conservative ideology has blinded him to reality.

Blaming Obama beyond being ‘self-serving’ partisan rhetoric, does nothing to address why people migrate.

And we saw how the ‘wall’ in China worked out . . .

Dealing with reality including over population and limited resources is being addressed through discussions about ‘sustainability’.

I suggest these sites to review and become aware of the actual problems driving human migration:

www.worldwatch.org
http://steadystate.org/
www.populationconnection.org


Indy: Posted: July 31, 2014 4:55 p.m.

therightstuff wrote: Indy: Posted: July 30, 2014 5:29 p.m.

"""I’m sure Jesus would be as disappointed and ashamed at a media outlet like Fox deceiving and poisoning our political discourse . . . as I am . . ."""

Indy: Exactly.


17trillion: Posted: July 31, 2014 5:28 p.m.

Indy, you're admitting that you deceive and poison our discourse? Frankly, I disagree since you need to be taken seriously in order to achieve that.


tech: Posted: July 31, 2014 6:21 p.m.

"But I have surmised that you’re a Sean Hannity disciple . . . when listening to one of his rants about Israel, he used many of the same words and terms you do . . .

Anyway, as I’ve noted before, I can help you better if I know where your educational deficiencies lie . . . I can surmise that you lack basics in economics, management, budgeting, science, environmentalism, and technology, but again, I can focus better to help you knowing your background." - Indy

Ha! I have little use for political hyperbole and the one time I spent a few minutes watching Hannity's show Alan Combs was still a co-host. W.F.B. was more my style. I know you're a bit slow on the uptake but I've stated multiple times in these fora that I rarely watch TV.

You're equally accurate about your remaining nonsensical assertions. Your trolling attempts are amusing. Positioning yourself as an authority on the topics listed makes me smile. :-D

"A liberal is someone who is determined to reach into your shower and adjust the water temperature for you." - William F. Buckley, Jr.


philellis: Posted: July 31, 2014 6:28 p.m.

I don't think that Mr. Buckley had the pleasure of meeting one of today's liberal who is not contrained to only adjust the water temperature.


tech: Posted: July 31, 2014 7:56 p.m.

Agreed, philellis.

Today, one would expect insertion of a thermometer when your back is turned while the NSA is recording your shower singing. --edited.


Indy: Posted: July 31, 2014 8:04 p.m.

17trillion wrote: Indy, you're admitting that you deceive and poison our discourse? Frankly, I disagree since you need to be taken seriously in order to achieve that.

Indy: What’s interesting is your perception and how you read things.

I see this all the time as conservatives look to the absolute ‘worse’ view of things then propagate that as talking points and slogans.

That I would agree with the historical Jesus that he wouldn’t appreciate deception by Fox . . . then taken out of context . . . is just the style of Fox . . . and something Jesus would deplore, no?


Indy: Posted: July 31, 2014 8:08 p.m.

Tech wrote: "But I have surmised that you’re a Sean Hannity disciple . . . when listening to one of his rants about Israel, he used many of the same words and terms you do . . .

Anyway, as I’ve noted before, I can help you better if I know where your educational deficiencies lie . . . I can surmise that you lack basics in economics, management, budgeting, science, environmentalism, and technology, but again, I can focus better to help you knowing your background." - Indy

Ha! I have little use for political hyperbole and the one time I spent a few minutes watching Hannity's show Alan Combs was still a co-host. W.F.B. was more my style. I know you're a bit slow on the uptake but I've stated multiple times in these fora that I rarely watch TV.

Indy: Yes, I only watched this bozo for about three minutes . . . but he covered your word mannerisms . . . that you use here.

Do you watch Hannity? Yes or no? Sound familiar???

Tech wrote: You're equally accurate about your remaining nonsensical assertions. Your trolling attempts are amusing. Positioning yourself as an authority on the topics listed makes me smile. :-D

Indy: And yep, he uses the ‘D’!

In any event, I really can help you with the topics here you’re struggling with.

You need to realize that real world solutions entail more than writing things on little pieces of paper in government buildings or arguing whether the words on the paper are as they seem . . . when anyone with brains can see the ‘context’.


tech: Posted: July 31, 2014 8:35 p.m.

Are you describing your employment in a government building, Indy? No need for specifics, just the agency that employs you will do. Does your union's contract have a minimum wage clause?


Indy: Posted: July 31, 2014 8:47 p.m.

Tech wrote: Are you describing your employment in a government building, Indy? No need for specifics, just the agency that employs you will do. Does your union's contract have a minimum wage clause?

Indy: I feel sorry for you when you have to start reaching for straws . . . or should I say ‘straw men’ that you like to ‘frame’ your rebuttals!

And I get a kick out of your assertions about my employment when I’ve addressed same many times here . . . but still waiting for your educational ‘disclosure’!

In any event, why religious conservatives like to hinder Americans from getting out of ‘market based poverty’ by denying rational attempts to address the oversupply of labor by putting forth a raise in the minimum wage . . . only makes your support of ‘wealth concentration’ all the more devious in you support of libertarian market fundamentalism.

I’m happy I’m here to help you out in these areas . . . so we can continue a ‘market’ based economy but one that recognizes ‘fairness’ in that the economy doesn’t exist just for the elite 1% that now controls 20%+ of all income.

Lots more to discuss as we move to November, no?


tech: Posted: July 31, 2014 9:01 p.m.

"And I get a kick out of your assertions about my employment when I’ve addressed same many times here . . . " - Indy

I must have missed it. Since you claim to have disclosed it "many times", you'll have no qualms about repeating it, eh? What government agency do you perform "environmental" services for? And the union question?


therightstuff: Posted: July 31, 2014 10:57 p.m.

Indy: """I’m sure Jesus would be as disappointed and ashamed at a media outlet like Fox deceiving and poisoning our political discourse . . . as I am . . ."""

I love this quote!

An atheist assuming he knows the mind of Jesus...

More obsession with Fox with no evidence of factual inaccuracies...

Best of all, a Freudian slip to his own deception and poison of our political discourse.

Indy's own words...BEST. POST. EVER.


therightstuff: Posted: July 31, 2014 11:34 p.m.

Indy: """Oh, he hates Obama personally . . ."""

This Obama wh0re is just parroting the talking points from his pimp in Washington, D.C. In a speech this week, Barack Obama stood in front of his mindless worshippers and did what he does best....divide, denigrate, and despise anyone who doesn't think like he does. Rather than try to work with Republicans on critical issues impacting all Americans, he said the GOP should “stop just hating all the time.”

With the country in total disarray, his administration swirling in scandals, and the world in chaos, Barack Obama whines like a spoiled child who doesn't get his way..."they hate me! w-a-a-a-a-a!" This kind of talk is beneath the office but we're talking about Barack Obama.

When you can't debate the issues, you resort to childish tactics and accuse the other side of hating you. This is what passes for leadership among Obama's subservient wh0res.


ricketzz: Posted: August 1, 2014 10:36 a.m.

TRS. You cannot continue to defend Fox News' distortion of reality that way and also refuse to visit sites which prove Fox News/Newscorp/News International is intentionally misleading you. It just proves you are a Vidiot*.

http://mediamatters.org/issues/environment-science

* https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mwtCptBaYL8


CaptGene: Posted: August 1, 2014 11:33 a.m.

I see the irony of numbskulls cricketzz and Indy Nile offering sites like mediamatters.org and skepticalscience.com as the antidote to agenda driven news is lost on numbskulls cricketzz and Indy Nile.


therightstuff: Posted: August 1, 2014 3:33 p.m.

ricketzz...mediamatters...really? I don't have to stick my head in the outhouse toilet to prove is smells.


therightstuff: Posted: August 1, 2014 9:07 p.m.

ricketzz...George Soros donated $1-million to Media Matters in 2010. Funny how you get so outraged by the Koch brothers or Rupert Murdoch but have no problem with George Soros. Apparently if they agree with your worldview, it's OK.


ricketzz: Posted: August 2, 2014 10:26 a.m.

2010 was 4 years ago. In the world of cash politics Soros was a piker. The Kochs have dozens of shadowy entities greasing palms and writing legislation for star struck Republican state governments. They astroturfed the Tea Party. They have been doing this for generations. They are buying the government.

Media Matters presents actual recordings that stand on their own. Context is provided. If you want to read the text you can, but it isn't required. How can this not be honest?


therightstuff: Posted: August 2, 2014 1:08 p.m.

"""How can this not be honest?"""


Media Matters for American (MMfA) started with the help of $2 million in donations from liberal philanthropists connected to the Democratic party. According to Byron York, additional funding came from MoveOn.org and the New Democrat Network.

In 2004 MMfA received the endorsement of the Democracy Alliance, a partnership of wealthy and politically active donors. The Alliance itself does not fund any of its endorsees, but many wealthy Alliance members acted on the endorsement and donated directly to MMfA. Media Matters as a matter of course has a policy of not comprehensively listing donors. Six years after the Alliance endorsed MMfA, financier George Soros—a founding and continuing member of the Alliance—announced in 2010 that he was donating $1 million to MMfA. Soros said: "Despite repeated assertions to the contrary by various Fox News commentators, I have not to date been a funder of Media Matters." Soros said concern over "recent evidence suggesting that the incendiary rhetoric of Fox News hosts may incite violence" had moved him to donate to MMfA, which thanked Soros for announcing his donation "quickly and transparently".

Former chief of staff to president Bill Clinton John Podesta provided office space for Media Matters early in its formation at the Center for American Progress, a Democratic think tank that he had created in 2002. Hillary Clinton advised Media Matters in its early stages out of a belief that progressives should follow conservatives in forming think tanks and advocacy groups to support their political goals.

Media Matters hired numerous political professionals who had worked for Democratic politicians and for other progressive groups. In 2004 article on Media Matters the National Review referred to MMfA staffers who had recently worked on the presidential campaigns of John Edwards and Wesley Clark, for Congressman Barney Frank, and for the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Matters_for_America


ricketzz: Posted: August 3, 2014 10:11 a.m.

I didn't ask who gives them money. I asked if all they do is present idiot right wingers saying insane stuff (in their own words) how can it not be honest.


therightstuff: Posted: August 3, 2014 10:55 a.m.

Media Matters was launched by David Brock who the New York Times and Washington Post has called highly partisan. Media Matters was part of what David Brock described as his "guerrilla warfare to sabotage" Fox News.

I've given you the donors, the staff, and the motive behind Media Matters. If you still cannot connect these obvious dots of their liberal agenda then I can't help you.


tech: Posted: August 3, 2014 1:11 p.m.

Media organizations can influence public opinion via news story selection bias. QED.

Read broadly from disparate sources and think for yourself.


therightstuff: Posted: August 3, 2014 3:55 p.m.

As a proud, card-carrying member of the religious conservatives, I obviously follow conservative sources for news but when posting something for others, I will seek independent verification and use that source. I always try to find these items from those most liberal of sources but it still has no impact on the hard-core liberal ideologues that roam this site.

If I consistently sited Fox News as my only source, our liberal friends would have an emotional meltdown. But these same folks consistently use Media Matters, Huffington Post, MSNBC or other far-left butt-wipes on the rare occasions they offer any link to support their claims.

It's like trying to give driving directions to a blind man.


ricketzz: Posted: August 4, 2014 11:04 a.m.

Your bubbles are well crafted. There is no possible avenue to sanity that isn't blocked by a false equivalent. This doesn't seem odd; that you must remain inside a closed system for your narratives to work? That you must watch approved news and listen to approved radio? That they are right and the other 85% of the media are conspiring to rob you of your liberty?

I, like Mr. Brock, was deeply suspicious of the Clintons, because of what I was hearing on the radio from Mr. Limbaugh on Lt. Governor Dan Patrick's AM radio. I entered the new millennium sitting on the fence. Late in 2001 events and satellite radio broadened my horizons. The more I think about it, the more convinced I am that most Americans are in an impenetrable shell. The only way to break it is to have a giant collective emotional moment. A new Pearl Harbor if you will. That is why the radical right hates Global Warming. They hate it when we agree.


CaptGene: Posted: August 4, 2014 12:31 p.m.

ricketzz: "That is why the radical right hates Global Warming. They hate it when we agree"

You guys ALWAYS agree. You march in lockstep groupthink every waking moment. The second one of you shows a scintilla of free thought they are pounced upon by the "good" progressives that tow the company line, a la Professor Bengtsson.

As usual, ricketzz spews a KoolAid® fueled rant void of any facts.


therightstuff: Posted: August 4, 2014 4:17 p.m.

"""That they are right and the other 85% of the media are conspiring to rob you of your liberty?"""

Let's just say that I believe 85% of the media votes Democratic which taints their objectivity.


projalice11: Posted: August 4, 2014 6:28 p.m.

"GOP House Panel Clears White House of Any Wrongdoing in Benghazi
Hotlist Recommend 193 Comments / 0 New
From The San Francisco Chronicle:"

"WASHINGTON -- The House Intelligence Committee, led by Republicans, has concluded that there was no deliberate wrongdoing by the Obama administration in the 2012 attack on the U.S. Consulate in Benghazi, Libya, that killed Ambassador Chris Stevens and three other Americans, said Rep. Mike Thompson of St. Helena, the second-ranking Democrat on the committee.
The panel voted Thursday to declassify the report, the result of two years of investigation by the committee. U.S. intelligence agencies will have to approve making the report public.

Thompson said the report "confirms that no one was deliberately misled, no military assets were withheld and no stand-down order (to U.S. forces) was given."

http://www.sfgate.com/...
You know your fake scandal is dead when your very own smear committee releases a report that exonerates it's targets. If this isn't the final word on the phony Benghazi story, I don't know what is."

"BENGHAZSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"


therightstuff: Posted: August 4, 2014 7:18 p.m.

"BENGHAZSEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE"

Your partisan glee over the murder of four Americans by terrorists is pretty sick, even for you projalice. Wondering why we can only find this story on the far-left websites? When I Google this story I can find one of the websites offering jockstraps with the words, "Remember Benghazi". Sounds like you're kind of crowd, projalice.

It still doesn't clear the lies Obama and his minions told about the video for two weeks after the terrorist attack. I've said all along that THIS was the scandal of Benghazi and nothing has changed that fact. This is only dismissed by those who clearly don't care that Obama lied to them. Look how quickly these same people got over his lies about healthcare?


ricketzz: Posted: August 5, 2014 9:24 a.m.

When I say "we" Capt Gene I mean you and me. They hate it when "we" agree. As in we drop our silly political arguments and work together to address an existential threat to everyone. ExxonMobil is the Empire of the Rising Sun. Hurricane Sandy into New York-New Jersey is Pearl Harbor.

When you claim everything is a scandal the real ones get a pass. Keep your powder dry. I am not any kind of California Liberal. I am a small L Texas libertarian. My political independence allows appraisal of ideas, unencumbered by rigid ideology. I have spent some uncomfortable time with local lefties and was not impressed. I know it is inconvenient for a hater to not have a neat cubbyhole for me, but their brains just aren't evolved enough to be able to grasp the idea that transcending politics is healthy governing.


CaptGene: Posted: August 5, 2014 12:43 p.m.

You are definitely one of as kind. But to be clear, there is no "we", you and I agree on next to nothing. Your claims of being a libertarian and not a liberal run contrary to the evidence you post here.


ricketzz: Posted: August 6, 2014 10:05 a.m.

That is where you have been led astray. We agree on 95% of things. You'd be a lot better off if you'd drop out of your media bubble; listen to 89.3 or KCRW, instead of hateful AM radio. Leave the TV off, or just watch Comedy, like I do.

You cannot deal with the social universe and be mad all the time. You must learn to be smarter than your peers and to take comfort and calm from your superiority; do not get into stupid arguments over irrelevant crap.

I said California Liberal. Small L libertarian simply means "socially liberal fiscally conservative". From there we each have our own way to define the rest. That is what I was before the word "libertarian" came into general use. I met Dr. Ron Paul of Lake Jackson in 1976. That's when I realized I was neither Liberal nor Conservative exclusively. The "l" word was not yet in use then. I remember Cato started using it in the early '80s, could have happened earlier.


CaptGene: Posted: August 6, 2014 12:49 p.m.

Oh gee, I feel so much better now that the poster child for AS has set me on the correct path.

A sincere thank you for the biggest laugh I've had in a long time.


ricketzz: Posted: August 7, 2014 9:21 a.m.

Can a person be "free" and angry at the same time?


tech: Posted: August 7, 2014 6:34 p.m.

Can a "free range" chicken and an Angry Bird coexist?


ricketzz: Posted: August 8, 2014 10:14 a.m.

I asked a serious question and you replied with gibberish. Did you mean disrespect?


CaptGene: Posted: August 8, 2014 12:37 p.m.

ricketzz: "Can a person be "free" and angry at the same time?"

I think most here would agree that your posts answer your own question. Unless you are institutionalized (very possible), you are probably "free", and 85% of what you posts reveals your pent up anger.


ricketzz: Posted: August 9, 2014 10:06 a.m.

I did not realize you were Tech's lawyer. No one is free until everyone is free.


tech: Posted: August 9, 2014 11:22 p.m.

"No one is free until everyone is free." - ricketzz

Nice slogan. Where did you pick that up?

I'm free because I have an open mind.


tech: Posted: August 9, 2014 11:26 p.m.

Never mind, it's a quote from Fannie Lou Hamer.


ricketzz: Posted: August 10, 2014 10:55 a.m.

I think I got it from Huey Newton or Rap Brown. During the Revolution.


CaptGene: Posted: August 10, 2014 7:53 p.m.

ricketzz: "I did not realize you were Tech's lawyer"

Who are you talking to? See, when I am addressing you or some bit of your gibberish, I will post some of your gibberish, then comment on it. That way you know I am talking to or about you. When you fail to make it clear what or who your post is directed at, you have no reason to expect that the party you intended to respond to your gibberish will be the only party to respond to your gibberish.

I'm shocked that am award winning producer wouldn't know that. It's becoming quite obvious that you were, at best, an "Honorable Mention".


Indy: Posted: August 11, 2014 4:14 p.m.

Tech wrote: I'm free because I have an open mind.

Indy: In fact, it’s just the opposite . . . your enslaved by a failed ideology that has shown not to work in the ‘real world’.

But indeed, the Founding Fathers gave people the freedom to believe in nonsense . . .


ricketzz: Posted: August 12, 2014 9:50 a.m.

To most people "free" means not encumbered. Enough to eat and a private place to eat it. Access to opportunity and a path to personal improvement. A means to make a living doing meaningful work. A place to sleep and have personal thoughts. Not having to worry about going bankrupt because of an illness. Not having a country, state, county, city run by good ole boy fat cats in backroom deals. Bring back the stocks for corporate bullies so we can egg them.


tech: Posted: August 13, 2014 1:43 a.m.

Indy: In fact, it’s just the opposite . . .

Projecting again, Indy? No one takes you seriously.


tech: Posted: August 13, 2014 1:47 a.m.

"To most people "free" means not encumbered. Enough to eat and a private place to eat it. Access to opportunity and a path to personal improvement. A means to make a living doing meaningful work. A place to sleep and have personal thoughts. Not having to worry about going bankrupt because of an illness." - ricketzz

I have all those because I've earned them, ricketzz. However, let me assure you, if I was a political prisoner jailed by the totalitarian state you've advocated, my mind would still be free.


ricketzz: Posted: August 14, 2014 10:57 a.m.

I don't advocate for a totalitarian state. I merely note the presence of one.


tech: Posted: August 19, 2014 12:33 a.m.

Then you have little idea of what constitutes a totalitarian state.



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