A toll lane along I-5 between Parker and the 14 freeway is of benefit of pretty much one set of entities-- Newhall Ranch developers, who just can't seem to be able to fabricate a believable story about how traffic for 22,000 homes won't being Newhall pass to a dead stop at rush hour. Of course, there is no credible story, since it is obvious to all thinking SCV'ers that dumping that kind of traffic on our freeways will be a disaster.
And this does nothing about I-5 through the pass, either.
Just another way we all pay corporate welfare.

"New solutions proposed for old traffic problems" are still old solutions
from yesterdays, and the new solutions will continue to be old solutions
until there is rapid transit system and a double decker freeway !!

Car pool lanes were added on 20 miles of the 405 freeway in the San Fernando Valley without a "fee" burden. The residents there do not make alot of money.

Car pool lanes were added on over 20 miles of the 14 freeway from the 5 to Palmdale without any fee. The residents there do not make alot of money.

Now car pool lanes need to be added on 10 miles of freeway from castaic to the 14. The resident there do make alot of money. Lets charge them a fee to use something that they paid alot of taxes for.

This is a trend that is starting in California. Gov Brown withheld school funding, and used it as hostage to push for the passage of proposition 30. "For the children".

Prop 30 money has no guarantee of going to the schools.

The new scam is to cut funding for schools in high income taxpayer communities. The local communities would need to propose bond issues, paid by local taxpayers, to provide general school funding. "For the children" Prop 30 money would go to schools in poorer communities where they cannot
suck dry the low/no income people.

This is without a doubt, bar none, hands down, the STUPIDEST idea and biggest waste of money, that I have EVER heard in my entire life regarding transportation. I didn't think anything sounded worse than the train through the central valley, but this toll carpool lane bull crap, absolutely takes the cake.

lars - thank you for stating it so perfectly! The wealthier communities end up supporting the poorer communities in many ways.

This attempt to now charge for toll roads (and/or increase the carpool designation from 2 people in a car to 3)in our area reminds me of when Santa Clarita passed a bond to raise our taxes to pay for improvements at COC. Although a huge percentage of students, who go to COC come from out of the area and they or their parents never pay that increased tax, the proposition overwhelming passed because the SCV voters deemed in necessary.

However, if you look at Pierce College and some of the other Southern California Community colleges, they too have remodeled and built beautiful new buildings WITHOUT taxing themselves. Those areas still got a lot of money to build and upgrade, but Santa Clarita had to tax themselves to receive the same benefits.

Lars if they "add" lanes as the article and you state; and it is done by private enterprise; what taxes are you refering to when you say the residents already paid it?

Taxpayers bought the right-of-way for I-5, so in that sense lars is correct.

The real bottleneck will continue ot be the interchanges and overpasses, which this measure does not address.

However, you can bet the developers would dishonestly tout this as the "solution" to the traffic problem they will create, and we taxpayers will pay FAR MORE than the toll road cost in widening 9again0 tall the bridges in Newhall Pass.

Sort of like "free puppies". It ain't free to we taxpayers in the big picture.

carpool lanes were added on the 14 freeway,
and on the 405 170 and 5 freeway in the valley.
THEY ARE NOT TOLL LANES!

We live in a more wealthy community and pay taxes that should be used for tranportation improvements.
TrueGrit.. where did our taxes go for the last 30 years?????

Lars, I love what you said:

"Car pool lanes were added on 20 miles of the 405 freeway in the San Fernando Valley without a "fee" burden. The residents there do not make alot of money.

Car pool lanes were added on over 20 miles of the 14 freeway from the 5 to Palmdale without any fee. The residents there do not make alot of money.

Now car pool lanes need to be added on 10 miles of freeway from castaic to the 14. The resident there do make alot of money. Lets charge them a fee to use something that they paid alot of taxes for. "

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I want my 21st century flying car, not 20th century non-solutions.

Remember tha crazy guy back in the 60s talking about his Monorial system. The government said it would never last. Funny I still see it running at Disneyland. Hmm I guess government does know what its talking about.

I wonder what the huge numbers of baby boomers retiring (if we ever can) will have on the freeway traffic. If we are the largest demographic then it should have some impact. Unless we are building roads for the influx of illegals over the next decades. Sorry, tired on Friday.

Is there a way we can get all of the little battery/gas ran cars OFF the roads. Most of the people that drive them think they are special. Im pretty much sure they are stupid. How many times does one of these "Smart" people get into the fast lane just to go under the speed limit?